Fred (or anyone),

I was directed to a fine article on the RTS website today and was surprised to find images of Christ twice appearing there. I assumed RTS had the same reformed view as myself concerning images of Christ. Did I assume wrong or did this possibly slip past the seminary?

Fondly in Christ,

Greg,

Good to see you back. I hope you will hang around. Could you give me the url for that article?

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Fredrick T. Greco
Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA (Katy, TX)
Christ Church Blog

"The heart is the main thing in true religion...It is the hinge and turning-point in the condition of man's soul. If the heart is alive to God and quickened by the Spirit, the man is a living Christian. If the heart is dead and has not the Spirit, the man is dead before God." (J.C. Ryle)

Thanks, brother. The article is an old one. It's by Frame on the Incarnation. The URL is:

http://www.rts.edu/quarterly/winter00/frame.html

Good article, but no reason for breaking God's law.

More evidence that RTS-Orlando is corrupting the purity of Reformed worship with the leaven of innovative, contemporary thought. Sorry Fred, just wanted to beat you to the punch. :P

By the way, welcome back, Gregory.

He doulos good to see ya

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Nathan Olaf Brandal
First Baptist Church of Kirkland

"Man is nothing: he hath a free will to go to hell, but none to go to heaven, till God worketh in him to will and to do his good pleasure"
GEORGE WHITEFIELD TO JOHN WESLEY

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Bob Howes
Framingham, MA

A reoccurring thought:

Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Doulos! Welcome back. I believe we should take a poll..............

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Scott Bushey
Husband to Tina, father to Nicole, Danielle and Zoe
Member First Presbyterian Church of Margate PCA

Actually, it looks like the pictures were probably added after the article by the magazine.

Craig, is Frame a non-WLC 109 2nd commandment guy? I really don't know.

John Frame - Pastoral and Social Ethics - Part IV

Fred,

Check out the above for Frame's treatment on the 2nd commandment. He treats pedagogical uses, images of Christ, regulative principle etc. in it. It's quite a few pages with some setup work on his part so I didn't want to snip and quote him outta context.

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Chris Rhoades -33
Good Shepherd Presbyterian Church (PCA) Nashville, TN-Under Care

Vera theologia non theoretica, sed practica est; Finis siquidem eius agere est hoc est vitam vivere deiformem. - Martin Bucer
""True theology is not theoretical, but practical. The end of it is living, that is to live a godly life."

Thanks Chris. I'm not surprised. Disappointed as usual, but not surprised.

Thanks for all the warm "welcomes."

I hope to participate some before next semester begins.

Fred,

Frame's position is that the second commandment forbids the use of images in worship as the Roman Catholics do (their use of "icons" ). But it doesn't forbid the use of images for purposes of instruction and the like.

Craig,

Thanks. But I still think that I am right in that Frame did not have anything to do with the pictures on the article website.

Yeah, I think you are. I doubt Frame cares one way or another if the pictures are there.

Where does ornamentation fall?

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Tom Albrecht
Member, Covenant URCNA, New Holland, PA.

"I'm not a famous man. I'm just a simple country doctor with horse sense."

Understood. But I would not want anyone to think it was some kind of Orlando or Frame conspiracy -

Just plain garden variety non-Westminsterian magazine publishing.

Not under icons, which would mean they are okay.

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