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Who living would you consider to be the most prominent defenders of the good old way of the Puritan (i.e. biblical) view of the fourth commandment?
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| | | That's flattering; but I'm more thinking of decades of witness and writings, etc. | 
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| | | Andrew Bonar, Robert Murray McChyenne, Charles Spurgeon, Lloyd Jones, Sinclair Ferguson, and Eric Alexander. Is this what you are asking? | 
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| | | I forgot about Joey Pipa and I would add Joel Beeke. | 
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| | | Does Dr. Beeke take more of a Puritan view than Reformed? | 
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| | | I was going to suggest Joel Beeke, Joesph Pipa and Walter Chantry; but I am not sure if they fully adopt the Puritan view. Can anyone elaborate? I got the impression from Walt Chantry's book that he would allow for recreations. | 
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| | | Oh yes, there is Rev. Hugh Cartwright of the Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland (he wrote the essay on the Establishment principle in Ligon Duncan's volumes); he is bound to have some articles on it. | 
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| | | And what about Dr. Francis Nigel Lee? | 
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Originally Posted by NaphtaliPress Does Dr. Beeke take more of a Puritan view than Reformed? | What is the difference? Beeke comes out of the Dutch tradition. They say if you aint Dutch you aint much.  | | The Following User Says Thank You to Stephen For This Useful Post: | | 
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Originally Posted by Daniel Ritchie I was going to suggest Joel Beeke, Joesph Pipa and Walter Chantry; but I am not sure if they fully adopt the Puritan view. Can anyone elaborate? I got the impression from Walt Chantry's book that he would allow for recreations. | I am not certain that Chantry holds that position but I will have to look at that further. The confession clearly states that we are to give ourselves to a holy resting from all work and recreation, so that we can devote ourselves entirely to worship. I do not think you can explain it any other way. | 
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Originally Posted by Daniel Ritchie I was going to suggest Joel Beeke, Joesph Pipa and Walter Chantry; but I am not sure if they fully adopt the Puritan view. Can anyone elaborate? I got the impression from Walt Chantry's book that he would allow for recreations. | I am not certain that Chantry holds that position but I will have to look at that further. The confession clearly states that we are to give ourselves to a holy resting from all work and recreation, so that we can devote ourselves entirely to worship. I do not think you can explain it any other way. | As I recall, in his little book "Call the Sabbath a Delight", he doesn't approach the recreation question as a yes or no, but rather says that things that clear your mind for reflection are quite OK. I think the example he used was that if you were a sedentary office worker who rarely got outside during the work week, it was quite all right to go out for a bike ride or a walk for some exercise and air, all to clear your mind and aid your meditations.
I thought his book was good at urging the command but avoiding the over-focus on negative rules (without being antinomian). Rather, he pointed out the purpose and joyful benefits of obeying the Fourth Commandment.
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Originally Posted by Pilgrim G.I. Williamson? | He is not a systematic theologian. He wrote a commentary on the Westminster Confession of Faith, which is a great resource for teaching a Sabbath School class or an introduction to the WCF. | 
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