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1. you named your first child “Cyrus Ingersoll,” even though it was a girl.
2. when you pray, you turn and face towards Dallas.
3. you’re surprised and embarrassed by Jack Deere.
4. you need charts to teach the Book of Psalms.
5. you think Jesus used PowerPoint for the Sermon on the Mount.
6. you’re familiar with Chafer, but not Schaeffer.
7. when you’re driving home at night and see a bright light in the sky, you unfasten your seat belt and “get ready.”
8. you find prophetic significance in Eliot Spitzer's arrest.
9. you know who John Nelson Darby is and have his synopsis of the Bible.
10. your favorite definition of “economy” comes from Charles Ryrie.
11. when asked for a commentary on the Revelation, you turn to your complete collection of Left Behind books.
12. your prayer group is concerned that Dallas has "gone liberal."
13. when asked a question about Pentecost, your first impulse is to answer Dwight.
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I especially like # 7!
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| |  That's good stuff. I liked #8. My best friend from high school's mom saw prophetic fulfillment in every news event. Everything that happened was either "a communist plot" or "a fulfillment of prophecy"!
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you find prophetic significance in Eliot Spitzer's arrest.
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11. You've decided on your own study that Tim LaHaye and Hal Lindsey are the two witnessess in Revelation 11.
12. You have memorized "I wish we all been ready"
13. You've decided to write a commentary on the Left Behind series, only it will be in Greek and Hebrew.
14. You and your friends are going to create Left Behind action figures and sell them on eBay.
15. You've never met a Post-Tribber
16. Each year the Lord lays it on your heart to visit Israel
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John,
You've got to come up with some new ones. Those were priceless.
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I didn't understand them.
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18. You think when the Jews left Egypt and entered the Promised Land they found literal streams of milk and rivers of honey there.
(For those unfamiliar with it, Joel 3:18 is fulfilled in volume 13 of the Left Behind series by literal streams of milk and streams of wine that the characters drink from. And Tim LaHaye explains in a note at the end of that volume that "we believe what we have portrayed here will happen someday.")
19. You keep a tennis racket on hand to swat the locusts of Rev. 9:1-9.
(One of the characters does that in volume 5 of the series.)
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20. You think Joel Olsteen is apostate not because he doesn't preach Jesus and Him crucified, but because he never mentions the rapture!
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[quote]20. You think Joel Olsteen is apostate not because he doesn't preach Jesus and Him crucified, but because he never mentions the rapture
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Originally Posted by David_A_Reed 18. You think when the Jews left Egypt and entered the Promised Land they found literal streams of milk and rivers of honey there. | Raises hand
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21. you have Dallas Theological Seminary as your internet "home page."
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Originally Posted by DMcFadden 21. you have Dallas Theological Seminary as your internet "home page." | Or took it off from having it your home page for years, because some are going progressive dispy (aka liberal).
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19. You keep a tennis racket on hand to swat the locusts of Rev. 9:1-9.
(One of the characters does that in volume 5 of the series.)[/quote] | 
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Originally Posted by DMcFadden 21. you have Dallas Theological Seminary as your internet "home page." | Or took it off from having it your home page for years, because some are going progressive dispy (aka liberal). | 
Progressive? I never thought I would here about dispensationalists going liberal. As a former dispy, that was the worst thing a person could become (other than a Calvinist  ).
Who is behind this leftward move in the dispensational camp? This leads me to ask just how many dispensationalists are fundamentalists (as I was)?
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Originally Posted by Josiah Who is behind this leftward move in the dispensational camp? This leads me to ask just how many dispensationalists are fundamentalists (as I was)? | Progressive dispensationalists are NOT liberal. Some traditional dispis may consider them so because, rather than embracing the church age as a parenthesis, they perceive that this present dispensation is a key link between past dispensations and the future dispensations.
Progressives, instead of approaching all Old Testament quotations in the New Testament as application, attempt to take into account the context and grammatical-historical features of both Old Testament and New Testament texts. Also, you will find that progressive dispensationalism uses much more of the "already but not yet" thinking popular in NT scholarship generally. Some traditional dispensationalists complain that progressive dispensationalism is just covenant theology in sheep's clothing.
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Originally Posted by DMcFadden Quote:
Originally Posted by Josiah Who is behind this leftward move in the dispensational camp? This leads me to ask just how many dispensationalists are fundamentalists (as I was)? | Progressive dispensationalists are NOT liberal. Some traditional dispis may consider them so because, rather than embracing the church age as a parenthesis, they perceive that this present dispensation is a key link between past dispensations and the future dispensations.
Progressives, instead of approaching all Old Testament quotations in the New Testament as application, attempt to take into account the context and grammatical-historical features of both Old Testament and New Testament texts. Also, you will find that progressive dispensationalism uses much more of the "already but not yet" thinking popular in NT scholarship generally. Some traditional dispensationalists complain that progressive dispensationalism is just covenant theology in sheep's clothing. | Right. In answer to Josiah, I was not claiming that progressive dispies were liberal. Rather, I was trying to spoof what some traditional dispies would say about progressives. Apparently, no one saw the humor in it. It was an unsuccessful attempt at humor.
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Originally Posted by greenbaggins Quote:
Originally Posted by DMcFadden Quote:
Originally Posted by Josiah Who is behind this leftward move in the dispensational camp? This leads me to ask just how many dispensationalists are fundamentalists (as I was)? | Progressive dispensationalists are NOT liberal. Some traditional dispis may consider them so because, rather than embracing the church age as a parenthesis, they perceive that this present dispensation is a key link between past dispensations and the future dispensations.
Progressives, instead of approaching all Old Testament quotations in the New Testament as application, attempt to take into account the context and grammatical-historical features of both Old Testament and New Testament texts. Also, you will find that progressive dispensationalism uses much more of the "already but not yet" thinking popular in NT scholarship generally. Some traditional dispensationalists complain that progressive dispensationalism is just covenant theology in sheep's clothing. | Right. In answer to Josiah, I was not claiming that progressive dispies were liberal. Rather, I was trying to spoof what some traditional dispies would say about progressives. Apparently, no one saw the humor in it. It was an unsuccessful attempt at humor. | I saw the humor in it and I think it hits close to home as well. I indeed heard a man say a few years ago that his son was attending Tyndale Seminary in Ft. Worth because "Dallas is going liberal". This probably had reference mostly to the school becoming more progressive and less classicaly dispensationalist (IIRC Tyndale was founded in response to that trend). But by other standards one could argue they are becoming more liberal. Some examples would be having the RC William Bennett speak, the NET Bible adopting the RSV's rendering of Isa. 7:14, and egalitarian and evangelical feminist influence. For the latter, see here and here. Of course much the same could be said of several Reformed seminaries and feminism.
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22. You see the return of Absinthe liqueor (made from Wormword) as a sign of the immanent rapture. (see this thread)
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Originally Posted by Thomas2007 22. You see the return of Absinthe liqueor (made from Wormword) as a sign of the immanent rapture. (see this thread) | Your gonna be in trouble fro breaking the quarantine of the Pub.
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Originally Posted by DMcFadden You Might Be a Dispensationalist If . . .
1. you named your first child “Cyrus Ingersoll,” even though it was a girl.
2. when you pray, you turn and face towards Dallas.
3. you’re surprised and embarrassed by Jack Deere.
4. you need charts to teach the Book of Psalms.
5. you think Jesus used PowerPoint for the Sermon on the Mount.
6. you’re familiar with Chafer, but not Schaeffer.
7. when you’re driving home at night and see a bright light in the sky, you unfasten your seat belt and “get ready.”
8. you find prophetic significance in Eliot Spitzer's arrest.
9. you know who John Nelson Darby is and have his synopsis of the Bible.
10. your favorite definition of “economy” comes from Charles Ryrie.
11. when asked for a commentary on the Revelation, you turn to your complete collection of Left Behind books.
12. your prayer group is concerned that Dallas has "gone liberal."
13. when asked a question about Pentecost, your first impulse is to answer Dwight. | LOL
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Originally Posted by Josiah Quote:
Originally Posted by greenbaggins Quote:
Originally Posted by DMcFadden 21. you have Dallas Theological Seminary as your internet "home page." | Or took it off from having it your home page for years, because some are going progressive dispy (aka liberal). | 
Progressive? I never thought I would here about dispensationalists going liberal. As a former dispy, that was the worst thing a person could become (other than a Calvinist  ).
Who is behind this leftward move in the dispensational camp? This leads me to ask just how many dispensationalists are fundamentalists (as I was)? | Progressive dispensationalists are very respectable theologians who can easily give amils a run for their money. They are continually throwing out challenges that are going unanswered. It was partly PD that moved me towards historic premil.
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