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Psa 55:17 Evening, and morning, and at noon, will I pray, and cry aloud: and he shall hear my voice.
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07-04-2007, 01:16 PM
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I'm probably the only one who is going to throw cold water on this joke. I think it was horrible. It just plays on the fears associated with those who are deceived by dispensationalism. That poor girl was in tears and terrified. I didn't find it funny at all.
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07-04-2007, 01:26 PM
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Yea, I must admit that I felt bad for her.
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I could not make it all the way through. I was not impressed at all.
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As much of a jokester I am, I agree with Bill on this (But this isn't a jab toward you, Kerry, as I know you didn't mean it in a bad way).
Here's a professing Christian who's been taught the things many of us were taught growing up, and her hope has been dashed to pieces when she walks in the room...she falls to her knees thinking, "But I thought I was a Christian?" And you could tell she thought it because she was incredulous that she'd not been taken! That was a pretty cruel joke...and then the "spiritual" introducer set it up as if it were teaching her a lesson in order to justify it. Talk about disillusionment and her friends being a stumbling block. Sheesh.
Very bad taste by her friends.
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(But this isn't a jab toward you, Kerry, as I know you didn't mean it in a bad way).
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Originally Posted by joshua As much of a jokester I am, I agree with Bill on this (But this isn't a jab toward you, Kerry, as I know you didn't mean it in a bad way).
Here's a professing Christian who's been taught the things many of us were taught growing up, and her hope has been dashed to pieces when she walks in the room...she falls to her knees thinking, "But I thought I was a Christian?" And you could tell she thought it because she was incredulous that she'd not been taken! That was a pretty cruel joke...and then the "spiritual" introducer set it up as if it were teaching her a lesson in order to justify it. Talk about disillusionment and her friends being a stumbling block. Sheesh.
Very bad taste by her friends.
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If only she didn't start crying! Pretty funny up until that point.
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07-04-2007, 02:20 PM
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I guess most people are agreed that it was a bad-taste/cruel sort of joke. But, we still have to deal with 1 Thessalonians 4:17, which is, after all, part of the Word of God, despite the jokes we make about it (and despite how it's been "ruined" by dispensationalism): Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.
How can the Reformed view of the Rapture be summarized?
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Originally Posted by bookslover I guess most people are agreed that it was a bad-taste/cruel sort of joke. But, we still have to deal with 1 Thessalonians 4:17, which is, after all, part of the Word of God, despite the jokes we make about it (and despite how it's been "ruined" by dispensationalism): Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.
How can the Reformed view of the Rapture be summarized? | Good question Richard. Eschatology is a subject I am not too familiar with but need to be. Other than being opposed to dispensationalism, I am not altogether sure what, exactly, a Reformed eschatology would look like, and how passages like 1 Thes. 4:17 should be understood.
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Originally Posted by bookslover I guess most people are agreed that it was a bad-taste/cruel sort of joke. But, we still have to deal with 1 Thessalonians 4:17, which is, after all, part of the Word of God, despite the jokes we make about it (and despite how it's been "ruined" by dispensationalism): Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.
How can the Reformed view of the Rapture be summarized? | A Brief Sketch of Amillennial Eschatology
Hoekema addresses that halfway through this article under " As regards future eschatology, amillennialism affirms the following:" (see #5).
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07-04-2007, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bookslover I guess most people are agreed that it was a bad-taste/cruel sort of joke. But, we still have to deal with 1 Thessalonians 4:17, which is, after all, part of the Word of God, despite the jokes we make about it (and despite how it's been "ruined" by dispensationalism): Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.
How can the Reformed view of the Rapture be summarized? | all orthodox eschatological positions have a 'rapture' (saints caught up in the air to meet Christ). It's just simultaneous with the return of Christ.
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Originally Posted by joshua As much of a jokester I am, I agree with Bill on this (But this isn't a jab toward you, Kerry, as I know you didn't mean it in a bad way).
Here's a professing Christian who's been taught the things many of us were taught growing up, and her hope has been dashed to pieces when she walks in the room...she falls to her knees thinking, "But I thought I was a Christian?" And you could tell she thought it because she was incredulous that she'd not been taken! That was a pretty cruel joke...and then the "spiritual" introducer set it up as if it were teaching her a lesson in order to justify it. Talk about disillusionment and her friends being a stumbling block. Sheesh.
Very bad taste by her friends.
May the Lord heal the mass ignorance of those caught up in Dispensationalism and its eschatology.  | Agreed! As a master prankster, and having been guilty of some mean stuff in Boarding School and College..........even I thought this in rather bad taste.
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Originally Posted by I follow Jesus Agreed! As a master prankster, and having been guilty of some mean stuff in Boarding School and College......... | Max - yes, I must come clean and admitt that I was a prankster in college. I was a master at putting Saran Wrap on commode seats. I am still repenting of those days.
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Originally Posted by BaptistInCrisis Max - yes, I must come clean and admitt that I was a prankster in college. I was a master at putting Saran Wrap on commode seats. I am still repenting of those days. | Dude, you're bad!! Kinda like putting the hand of someone whose sleeping in a warm container of water or filling their hand with shaving cream and...uh, never mind. These are just things I've heard that other people have done...not that I would know anything about such foolishness...really...
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Did ya'll think she was REALLY surprised? I thought she was acting - I think the whole deal is an act, through and through.
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Originally Posted by jdlongmire Did ya'll think she was REALLY surprised? I thought she was acting - I think the whole deal is an act, through and through. | She very well could've been. In fact, I hope she was...otherwise it was very cruel.
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Originally Posted by joshua She very well could've been. In fact, I hope she was...otherwise it was very cruel. | Yeah - if it is true - the mere fact of PURPOSEFULLY making someone doubt their salvation???
Not. Funny.
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Well, the poor girl seemed truly distressed. I remember the trauma I felt after having been exposed to "A thief in the night" as an 8 year old - seeing this girls reaction brought back some of those memories, though obviously they have no hold on me now.
Seems like this Left Behind videos have a legacy in the same way as A thief in the night did in the 70's/80's
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Originally Posted by BlackCalvinist all orthodox eschatological positions have a 'rapture' (saints caught up in the air to meet Christ). It's just simultaneous with the return of Christ. | I always figured that, with my luck, I'd be in the shower when it happens. | 
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Originally Posted by BaptistInCrisis I'm probably the only one who is going to throw cold water on this joke. I think it was horrible. It just plays on the fears associated with those who are deceived by dispensationalism. That poor girl was in tears and terrified. I didn't find it funny at all. | I feel the same. This was cruel.
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It just proves what I always thought..."Left Behind" is referring to their clothes.
__________________ Erick Bohndorf, Covenant Baptist Church, KS http://qayaqtraveler.blogspot.com/ The question for us today is, will we be like the majority of Israel and continue to look in fear at the giants in the land and urge our fellow Christians to be "realistic," or will we be like Joshua and Caleb and faithfully follow our king, trusting to fulfill every one of his promises completely? | |