Alright, this is pretty funny (to me)... Here's a fundy Baptist pastor telling his congregation about being a man, and only the KJV tells us how to do it...
(Note...as he points out, he's "only" using God's words... but because in this case some people here may have G rated consciences about what "God's words" are, he uses a crude word for urinate... but hey, it's "God's words, not his!"



(BTW - he's the type of guy that gives KJV-onlyers a bad name...)

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Ben
Sanford, NC
TE Ohio Valley Presbytery, PCA

Flaming jackass... Nutjob. ("Nurse! Seroquel IV, stat!")

And you're hearing that from a TR-only adherent (KJV and Old Geneva, among others).

Margaret

Margaret

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Margaret
Free Church of Scotland [Continuing]
Michigan

"He must increase, but I must decrease." - John 3:30

Oh, Didn't He Ramble...

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Andrew Myers
Husband of Jessica, Father of Jackson, Katie and Samuel
Member, Presbyterian Reformed Church of Northern Virginia
Warrenton, VA USA
Editor, The Matthew Poole Project

"Let your Morning Thoughts, and your last Evening Thoughts, be what shall become of you to all Eternity." -- Matthew Poole

I know what's really wrong with this country... it is that pastor.

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Nathan Eshelman
Grand Rapids, MI
First Reformed Presbyterian Church

PRESBYTERIAN THOUGHTS

First Reformed Presbyterian Church

Read his 'about our pastor' page.

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Nathan Eshelman
Grand Rapids, MI
First Reformed Presbyterian Church

PRESBYTERIAN THOUGHTS

First Reformed Presbyterian Church

hmm.. interesting. I don't know what to say. It's in the Bible. (not those new fangled sterile ones). The sad thing is that I can see the Lib's in our country doing something like that. ("Its so messy, that is unclean. You can't stand") I don't know. A simple man armed with the KJV can preach better than a Lib with all the college in the world. Even if it's a little different. I'm gonna have to check out more of his stuff to see.

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Timothy Johnson
First United Presbyterian of Moline
PCUSA (Yea, I know)
Theology/Philosophy Sunday School Teacher
Davenport, IA

That could be my father in-law. He believes just like that. A true KJV Only-ist

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Tom Mitchell
Opp, AL
Member of First Presbyterian Church PCA Florala, AL

Open profaneness is the broad dirty way which leads to hell
--but trusting in religious duties is a sure way, though a cleaner way to hell. ~ Thomas Brooks
www.myspace.com/tom_mitchell1960
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=607055102

From their Doctrinal Statement; "We believe only in the local church and not in a universal church."

Blind leading the blind.

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Tom Mitchell
Opp, AL
Member of First Presbyterian Church PCA Florala, AL

Open profaneness is the broad dirty way which leads to hell
--but trusting in religious duties is a sure way, though a cleaner way to hell. ~ Thomas Brooks
www.myspace.com/tom_mitchell1960
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=607055102

The problem is not the assertion that everyone has been "ignoring" the phrase "pisseth against the wall", which occurs six times in the OT (and which the NKJ/NIV/ESV all do a fine job of in translating the intended sense). The problem with Steve A. is that he does such a wretched job preaching the passage. His focus is on a complete tangent, and he seems unable to understand that the phrase is not focused on "manliness" per se, but rather is an idiom reflecting the total destruction of the male population; whether old men or young boys, none were to be spared. The point of why that idiom was included in the first place is completely missed.

I mean, how easy would it be to come up with a sermon like that? Every time you had an itch to scratch against liberals/feminists/"modern Bible perversions" you would just thumb through the Scriptures until you came across some phrase that fit the bill, and - wham-o! There's your sermon for the week. It's either laziness or ignorance, or both.

I do have to admit that a good friend from seminary sent me this link last summer, and my wife and I were laughing so hard that we were having a difficult time breathing! The sad thing about it all is that the guy is serious!!!

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Adam J. Myer
Now waiting on the November accessions board, because I'm still waiting on the West Coast recruiting staff!
Evergreen PCA
Salem, Oregon

He does make some good criticisms of American society and politics in his sermons; though I doubt he should be a minister until he gets some training.

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Daniel Ritchie
Saintfield, Northern Ireland - Queen's University, Belfast:History/Politics
Member of Dromara Reformed Presbyterian Church of Ireland (Covenanter)

The problem with this assesment is that plenty of people who do not use the KJV are not Liberals.

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Daniel Ritchie
Saintfield, Northern Ireland - Queen's University, Belfast:History/Politics
Member of Dromara Reformed Presbyterian Church of Ireland (Covenanter)

He has a 70 hour a week job as well.

The church is an interesting hybrid. It is KJV-O, it rejects calvinism but it also rejects dispensationalism. They're big on the cheap grace of Zane Hodges. They go a lot on 'soul-winning' - there is a video showing you how, and each person who says a prayer with you they claim as 'saved'.

Is this a 'normal' IFB type church? I don't know, not being from the USA. I thought that IFB churches were dispensational.

J

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Jonathan Hunt

Preaching Elder
Cheltenham Evangelical Free Church (Confessionally Based)
Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, United Kingdom

Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence.
-- Thomas Elsworth

That's just the ecclesiastical equivalent to nominalism (the philosophical category, not the lack of religious commitment...). In the vein of Antithenes, Peter Aureolus, and others we would say, "I see a church, but not churchness".

However, if you told them they were philosophical nominalists in constructing their doctrine of the Church they 1) wouldn't understand what you were saying, and 2) would denounce you for discussing philosophy (a la Colossians 2:8) once they had you explain to them what it was that you were talking about!

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Adam J. Myer
Now waiting on the November accessions board, because I'm still waiting on the West Coast recruiting staff!
Evergreen PCA
Salem, Oregon

Oh I know! That is the type 'isogesis' that preachers use in the mainstream liberal church's today. Even mine. They usually relate it to some modern pop psychological idea that is floating around. I usually don't judge a preacher on a snippet though. But after checking out the church's website, I have to agree with the others he could use a little help. I'd rather listen to him than a liberal though...

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Timothy Johnson
First United Presbyterian of Moline
PCUSA (Yea, I know)
Theology/Philosophy Sunday School Teacher
Davenport, IA

That's true, but the percentages of KJV users I think are more conservative than non-KJV users. I know that if I go to a KJV-only church, it will probably be conservative, albiet arminian. Thanks! Grymir

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Timothy Johnson
First United Presbyterian of Moline
PCUSA (Yea, I know)
Theology/Philosophy Sunday School Teacher
Davenport, IA

Check out his "profound" essay on why Bible colleges and seminaries are sinful:

http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/biblecollege.html

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Ben
Sanford, NC
TE Ohio Valley Presbytery, PCA

This is priceless.

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Adam J. Myer
Now waiting on the November accessions board, because I'm still waiting on the West Coast recruiting staff!
Evergreen PCA
Salem, Oregon

This is what I thought was funny:

(Pastor Steven L Anderson, Phoenix, AZ)


My response: I bet the Devil has much more of the Bible committed to memory, and he too lacks a college degree!

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Ben
Sanford, NC
TE Ohio Valley Presbytery, PCA

Wow. Two interesting things from that:

1) "independent, autonomous" redundant?

2) "Hundreds have been saved, many have been baptized" problematic?

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Benjamin P. Glaser
Pittsburgh, PA
Fairmount ARP Church, Sewickley, PA
Student of Theology Pittsburgh Theological Seminary & Reformed Presbyterian Theological Seminary

“If the Church could be aroused to a deeper sense of the glory that awaits her, she would enter with a warmer spirit into the struggles that are before her.”-- J.H. Thornwell

However in itself being conservative is not a good thing, being resistant to change is only a good thing when it is in respect to eternal truths, when it is in respect of other things it can be a very bad thing.

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Mike
London City Presbyterian Church
London
England

"Surely, we wish to be orthodox, but we must first learn what real orthodoxy is. Surely, we wish to be progressive, but we must first have a basis to progress from."

"Take heed . . . The devil is a greater scholar than you."
--Richard Baxter

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--chRis
Psalm 115:1

Christopher Reeder
Husband to Kara, Father to Abigail (7), Caleb (6), Grace (4 1/2), Zoë (3), Elijah (1 1/2) and Hannah (born 8/8/2008)

Member: Pilgrim Presbyterian Church (OPC), Raleigh, NC