I know that many benefit much from van Til, but i was wondering if there are also those whom holds more to the views of Gordon Clark, and i would like to know were they think that van Til has his error's ?

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* Ralph Wilms (7-10-1974)
* Church : Christengemeente Roermond (The Netherlands)
* 1729 Goat Yard Declaration of Faith & 1646 Baptist Confession of faith

"To our mind, either everything or nothing must be held in subjection to the will and providence of God. Even the wickedness of ungodly men is restricted by predestination, so that the wrath of man shall praise God, and the remainder of wrath He will restrain." - GILBERT BEEBE (1800-1881)

John Robbins says there are contradictions in Van Til's thought, and that it is also not quite clear at times.

I wouldn't know. I haven't read any Van Til.

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Steven Nemes
Phoenix, AZ

Good philosophy must exist, if for no other reason, because bad philosophy must be answered - C.S. Lewis

I sure hope I'm never guilty of having unclear thoughts.

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Lance G. Marshall
Pastor
Georgetown, Indiana

Redbeetle on youtube tried to prove that Van Til was a Unitarian in his thinking and that he denied God's attributes as being fixed, its funny though cause now NeoConvert on youtube is doing a video series refuting the lies of Redbeetle. Redbeetle's favorite theologian is Gordon Clark and is trying to prove that Van Til is inferior to Clark, and Redbeetle has a STUPID ACCENT!(no offense)......just sayin......

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Christ Presbyterian Church , OPC (They sing alot of Psalms!)
Original Westminster Standards (I need to study more...)
The Puritans were best! Also... I NEED TO READ MORE!!!
Philipians1:29(KJV) For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

Janesville, Wisconsin (In the fellowship of Bob Vigneault and Matt+Megan Meisberger)

Robbins thinks it to be of utmost importance that a philosopher, theologian, etc., especially a Christian one, be clear and easy to understand. He seems to think obscure or difficult language is un-Christian-like.

Well I think sandals are unChristian like.....

Go to the Trinity Foundation website. They have a lot of that type of material. I would stick to Clark and Robbins only. A lot of the other writers are too derivative. Then go to cmfnow.com and select free articles and read the Contra-Robbins articles by Bahnsen. You should also read the writings of Van Til online to better understand Clark's objections. It was a big brou-ha-ha (sp?) and didn't really solve anything.

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Chris Thomas | SBC-Founders | Fairbanks, AK

"Whatever the cause, the Calvinists were the only fighting Protestants. It was they whose faith gave them courage to stand up for the Reformation. In England, Scotland, France, Holland, they,... did the work, and but for them the Reformation would have been crushed... If it had not been for Calvinists,... and whatever you like to call them, the Pope and Philip would have won, and we should either be Papists or Socialists." ~ Sir John Skelton

Don't understand the objection; surely Robbins' criticism is more fitting and not as trivial as yours.