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Tim Phillips
Pastor, Midlane Park Presbyterian Church (ARP)
Louisville, KY
Husband of Scottish Lass
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"Wherever the gospel is preached, it is as if God Himself came into the midst of us." ~ John Calvin

I have an internet filter which prevents me from viewing youtube videos.
Do you know anywhere else on the internet I might be able to find this so I might know what it is?

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Jakob (But you can call me Jake if you like)
Pastor in Training
Reformed Baptist
Missouri

The young Arminian man in the video seems to have been fed a bad meal which he is regurgitating on you tube. May God's Spirit correct and guide him.

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Rich Koster
1689'er
Browns Mills NJ USA
Often Goofy Reformed Eccentric
Romans 7:14-25

The young man is quite arrogant, and apparently hasn't studied Scripture - I will be praying for his repentance or his salvation, whichever is needed.

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~Nicholas~ Ordained Pastor
Member, Fulton PCA; GPTS Student
Christians are like snow covered dung; it is the purity of the covering which the Father sees. -Luther-
There is nothing more ugly than a Christian orthodoxy without understanding or without compassion.
-Francis Schaeffer-

The video is viewable at James White's website, but it is still going to show up as a Youtube video there. I tried looking for it on Godtube (now Tangle), but I don't see it there.

David does not know how to argue his point, at least correctly. He commented fallacies in reasoning. Then, he even mentions that he looked up Greek on the internet and didn't find what he was looking for (what kind of back up is that).

His argumentation is sad. I am young as well (19), but he is just outright rude in his response.

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Claudiu
Reformed Baptist
attending Immanuel Baptist Church
Sacramento, CA

I try not to watch people like that. They usually do little more than infuriate me. And it's but little use trying to answer them; they don't want truth, only attention.

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Jonathan
Audio Engineer
Reformed Anabaptist
Ohio

Moroni's magical glasses of proper interpretation:

Sorry, he was making too much of an ass of himself to continue. I hope the Lord will grant him the opportunity to see this in ten years and reflect on what nonsense he was spouting.

This kid is just rude.

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Kevin, husband of a truly angelic woman, and father to ten.
Zion United Reformed Church of Sheffield
Ontario, Canada

I expect some reactions: I pointed out the benefit to being "left behind" to some dispies. Bad Calvinist! You read again! They brought up Noah and Lot as a counterexample?

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Wha...?

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For the Glory of our King,
Joe Johnson
Slave of Christ, husband, father, Preacherboy at Cornerstone Community Church, Escanaba, MI. and TMS graduate. Personal website - SoundLife.org

I do not know, and I do not say, that a person cannot believe in Revelation and in evolution, too, for a man may believe that which is infinitely wise and also that which is only asinine. ~ CHS

Very disrepectful...

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John
Member
Christ Presbyterian Church (OPC)
Salt Lake City, Utah
www.christpres.net

I agree with the comments made thus far about David.

I had to laugh, though, in the part of the clip where David gives his conclusion about James White. He made a mistake that I thought was so appropriate. See if you can catch his mistake, beginning at around 8:20 into the video.

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B.Howes
Framingham, MA

he was in error the moment he decided to have that silly little goatee

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Ewen
1689 LBCF
Assemblies of God Bible College
Singapore

Phew, I wasn't the only one...

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Andrew Thornquist My Photo Album
Calvinistic Baptist
Ukiah, California
To follow Christ was the best decision God made for me!

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Nice bandwagon! There were some dispensationalists elsewhere getting all excited about being raptured and leaving the world behind. I replied:

"Something to consider: God has not historically pulled his favorites out first (see Israel and Judean history) and left the rest to burn: it tends to work the other way around. In other words the "rapture" is wishful (and destructive) thinking."

The argument the rapturous ones used was "but but God "swept up Noah and Lot" and how can I question the "Blessed Hope" aka the rapture?

I went to Youtube and watched this video and it was disturbing from start to finish.

I cannot imagine having the arrogance to get on Youtube and correct a man who has been teaching Greek and Hebrew for over half my lifetime, has several degrees and was a critical consult on the NASB, and spends his time debating theology with any number of religions....

Amazing.


I tried to comment but nobody on that comment thread wanted to actually talk about truth...it was all bluster...

PS: has anyone seen the "Monica Dennington" videos? They are also really messed up...

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Robert
Lay Person
PCA
West Virginia
Go share your faith

I had to quit at 5.45. I am sorely grieved over this young man. We really should pray for him. That type of arrogance at such a young age can/will destroy him. I pray that someone that knows him and knows the Bible can lovingly and firmly teach him. (And, teach him how to comb his hair )

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We shall not adjust our Bible to the age; but before we have done with it, by God's grace, we shall adjust the age to the Bible. - Charles Haddon Spurgeon

Lawrence Underwood, Jr.
Pastor - Providence Family Fellowship / Mobile, Alabama
1644/46 LBC
My Blog - Imprimis

...[my comment deleted]

Edit: I deleted my "KJV-only" comment

-----Added 7/1/2009 at 08:54:09 EST-----

Towards the end of the video, Dr. White said he checked on YouTube and found out that the boy was KJV-only, which Dr. White said may explain some things. I couldn't find the boy's video on YouTube, I wanted to see if other information was there as well, like what church he attends. I'd imagine (I could be wrong) that the pastor of the boy's church would probably agree the way the boy went about it, with the arrogant attitude, was inappropriate (and his hair).

I searched You tube and found the kids site...nothing on it is much better...

just search "matthew james white" and you'll get it...

Your comments sound familiar. Here's a comment I posted on another board recently.

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Trevor James
Ruling Elder, St. Paul's RBC
Oreland, PA.

1689 London Baptist Confession

I feel sorry for the kid. He so wants to be authoritative about things. He wants to be right, and yet is being taught incorrectly. I remember being taught the same things long ago in a Baptist church (but obviously not reformed) and thinking that Calvinism couldn't be right. Yes, it is sad that he doesn't see the tone of his video as a problem.

While we pray for this young man, let us also pray for the people that ought to have corrected him ... those who taught him incorrectly in the first place. While the boy is arrogant, he almost assuredly sits under the teaching of someone that is leading astray many people, and does not oversee his charges as closely as he ought. The person who teaches this boy needs our prayer -- not only for his sake, but for the sake of others whom he teaches. It is possible that his teacher knows about the video and does not reject the tone.

Prayer for the boy and his instructor would be good.

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Brian Withnell
Deacon, OPC
Leesburg, Virginia

You cannot train for war in the midst of a battle. Prepare before the battle starts; if the battle is long and hard, you will wish you had.

Arg... It's so easy to sound like you know what you are talking about when you really have no clue... Very disturbing video.

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Andrew C.
IFB
LBCF 1689

Here's his apology:

I liked this apology as well:

"Excuse me if I butcher this pronunciation; I don't speak Greek."

If he had just added, "I also know nothing about Greek grammar, but accept by opinions as scholarly nonetheless" the apology would have been complete.

Its good that he admitted he doesn't know Greek. That can be corrected. There are plenty of good Greek teachers out there that can teach him the language. For example...let me think...well, there's James White, and...

Well, at least he did offer somewhat of an apology, although he still hasn't learned why his initial interpretation was wrong. This is one of the problems with the internet, as it gives an audience to folks who have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

But I was young and stupid once. I learned from past mistakes, and by the grace of God so can he.

Wow...an apology that really wasn't an apology...

Is it possible to be just about as arrogant in an apology as the original action being apologized for?

yes.

When you qualify and apology with "well you did it too!" then it really makes me wonder about your motives...

An English word or 2 our young friend needs to look up is humility & wisdom, especially if he is thinking of pursuing the ministry.

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Cameron Prather
Particular Baptist/LBCF 1689
Martinsville, Indiana

"Many of the veils which are cast over Scripture are not meant to hide the meaning from the diligent, but to compel the mind to be active, for oftentimes the diligence of the heart in seeking to know the divine mind does the heart more good than the knowledge itself." Mr. Spurgeon

It's uncomfortable just to watch the young guy's video...

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Steven Nemes
Phoenix, AZ

Good philosophy must exist, if for no other reason, because bad philosophy must be answered - C.S. Lewis

I feel physically uncomfortable after having listened to him present his 'case' or his uninformed delivery, berating a studied scholar of language.

Ignorant – ‘Lacking knowledge or education in general or in a specific subject…’

Young guy on video- “Unless Greek is radically different from English here and I very much doubt it because I tried to look up on the internet you know uhh tricky things with Greek, active tense, didn’t see a thing I ASSUME” so assuming, without knowing after researching ‘tricky things’ provides one a platform for position which can determine that another is ignorant in the area you’ve studied?

In Him for the Gospel

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John Weathersby
Calvary Chapel
New Mexico

"For I decided to know nothing among you except
Jesus Christ and him crucified (1 Cor 2:2)".