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    The Atonement's Necessity

    Was the Atonement hypothetically necessary or absolutely necessary? In other words, could God have pardoned the elect from their sins by another means, but chose not to in order to display His glory in this manner (the death/res. of Christ) - OR - was it absolutely necessary (there is no forgiveness of sins w/o the shedding of blood), and could have occurred no other way?
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    Absolute consequential necessity.
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    Absolute necessity.

    For a good read on this, see John Murray's Redemption Accomplished and Applied Chapter 1, "The Necessity of the Atonement".

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    Originally posted by Dan....
    Absolute necessity.

    For a good read on this, see John Murray's Redemption Accomplished and Applied Chapter 1, "The Necessity of the Atonement".

    [Edited on 9-8-2005 by Dan....]
    I just read that today, hence this post
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    If the justice and righteousness of God means anything then the atonement is absolutely necessary.
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    But that absolute necessity must be consequent to God's will to save. God was never obligated to save, but once He obligated Himself, the necessity of the atonement became absolute.
    Fred Greco
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