Oh Boy... I believe the spirit of Pelagius and Marcion is alive and well.

It's a little long if you can bear it.

What's he talking about at 2:41 and on...

Marcionite 11:35-12:30

Butchers the Doctrine of Justification at 12:34-14:00

Pelagianism 15:00- till the end...

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John
Member
Christ Presbyterian Church (OPC)
Salt Lake City, Utah
www.christpres.net

Those 20 points are embarrassingly bad.

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His website makes this video unsurprising: Theological Writings

He's also an open theist: http://www.pinpointevangelism.com/li...se_Morrell.pdf

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Scott - Dallas, Texas - Faith OPC

"It is not what a lawyer tells me I may do; but what humanity, reason, and justice tell me I ought to do." - Edmund Burke

I could only listen to the first 5 min (his listing of the 20 points)

He can not have worked very long with these points if he is able to maintain these points credebility in his own mind.

And yes I also think these points are embarracing

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Martin - Reformed
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Soli Deo Gloria

What I have found discussing the "doctrines of grace" ("five points") with Christians who are Arminian/dispensational/no confession influenced is that:

1) they assume man is the center of all things, at least practically
2) some know the dispensational system well
3) some know a standard list of objections to "Calvinism" (e.g. wouldn't need to evangelize, no reason to follow Lordship of Christ, not fair God would deny some sinners who want to be saved, etc.)

What they do NOT understand at all...

1) "Calvinism" (esp. how the "five points" are logically and biblically necessarily based on and related to one another)
2) Covenant theology (the whole of scripture interpreting the whole of scripture)
3) the confessions

A great opportunity to engage, trusting God for the results.

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PCA
North Carolina


"Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised)"
Hebrews 10:23

You guys are missing the good news he gave....................... Calvinism is spreading like a plague.

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sarah
WI
OPC
My Pastor's Sermons: Mark Jenkins...he's awesome!!!

It saddens me when I observe the common "evangelistic" church holding basically the same disdain for Calvinism as Morrell. It is rarely expressed as boldly as Morrell, but it certainly shines through when Reformed thought (Calvinism) is introduced in conversation or a class.

Confessor's thread could tie in here, too.

Is incorrigible Arminianism a sign of unregeneracy?

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Berean Baptist Church, Mansfield, OH
Mansfield, OH

John 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing.
The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

Way to find the silver lining.

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~Nicholas~ Ordained Pastor
Member, Fulton PCA; GPTS Student
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-Francis Schaeffer-

I am glad he got one thing right. I only made it about 2 minutes. Laughing as loud as I was was going to hurt my reputation as a hard worker.

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Chaplain Assistant
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Ephesians 1:4-7, 1 Thessalonians 2:8, Romans 12:1-2
Titus 2:2 - But you, teach what accords with sound doctrine.

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ROFL, according to him we must read the Bible always as a child who does not meditate deeply...hmmm...

Forget what it means you silly Calvinists, just read it trusting in your own eyes and heart!!!

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Janesville, Wisconsin (In the fellowship of Bob Vigneault and Matt+Megan Meisberger)

This guy (Jesse Morrell) open-air preached here at Texas State University and gathered an enormous crowd of angry students - He kept telling them they were all going to hell, but he never followed it up with the gospel. So I looked him up...he's an Open Theist.

This is a video of him preaching at my campus:


That girl got him good!

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I was there when this happened by the way.

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Austin
EE student at Texas State University
Member of Church of the Cross (PCA) in San Marcos, TX
Ps. 8:3-4 "When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?"

I don't have time to listen. Can someone just list out his indictments?

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Ben
Chaplain, US Army
Ft. Riley, KS
TE Ohio Valley Presbytery, PCA

In addition to Open Theism, he also believes in sinless perfection - that he has never sinned once since he became a Christian; indeed, that a real Christian cannot ever sin again.

Ouch!

I don't know what's more disheartening his poor presentation of the gospel or the God haters.

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He lists them in under 3 minutes. The rest of the time is him just "expounding" on his indictments.

Me neither.

He's also a proponet of Moral Goverment Theology. Also if he's ano pen Theis twhy is he preaching i mean God may not know who's gonna be saved.

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Aaron
Independent Baptist
Holland MI

Quote from Sarah
May such plagues continue their deadly work of infecting many.

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Richard
communicant member, FCoS
Perth, Scotland UK

His Name forever shall endure;
last like the sun it shall:
Men shall be blessed in Him,
and blessed all nations shall Him call (Ps. 72:17)

I certainly hope that this Open Theism fad passes quickly! A few weeks ago when dropping my daughter off in Grand Rapids for college, I got into a conversation with a young man behind the counter in a Christian bookstore (the Baker one!). He indicated that he was coming out to CA for seminary because of the teachers, one of whom was an Open Theist. Yech!!! Why even bother? If God is so clueless and hamstrung, it hardly seems to matter.

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Atherton Baptist Homes, CEO
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This video and its blasphemy grieved my spirit greatly! Throughout watching the video Scriptures were constantly popping into my head that contradicted what he was saying. He went beyond classical Armeninism to complete heresy in some places and was insulting and being sarcastic about the true God!

I pray that he comes out of the error of his ways and see the truth of the Gospel.

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Jake; Hold to Original WCF, member of SBC; Greater Atlanta, Georgia Area

The cross does not give us a minor shift or two with regard to a few of our ethical and moral and religious values; the cross radically disrupts the very center and citadel of your life from self to Christ. —Albert N. Martin

I don't have time or interest to listen any further than I did, but he certainly fits Mark Driscoll's description of one class of people who have in the past caused him so much trouble, namely, geeky, 20-something, single white males who probably do all of their theology from the basement of their mother's home, and who need to get married and grow up some before they presume to take any form of theological leadership in their congregation, or elsewhere.

I would bet large amounts of cash that this guy has a blog.

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Adam J. Myer
Slated for the Jan. 10th Chaplains Basic Officer Leadership Course
Estacada Christian Church
Sandy, Oregon

Soli Deo Gloria

This guy is actually a traveling street preacher. I know him from some other forums. Definitely not the soundest theologian. May the Lord give light to him...

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Taylor W. Otwell, Husband to Abigail
Member, Fellowship Bible Church
Fort Smith, Arkansas
Family Blog

This man is a fool.

Total depravity makes men victims???? Has he never listened to or read a single sermon on the subject. I have never seen a thing about total depravity that didnt deeply convict me because I AM A SINNER, because I hated God. I am just curious as to whom he studied before bringing these indictments forth.

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Bryan Riddle
1689 London Baptist Confession
Bethel Baptist Church Owasso, Oklahoma

I agree only with his opening remark that "Calvinism is spreading like a plague" It is ..I disagree with his attacks. I and many others on here ,the PB are ex roman catholics and now Reformed Protestants and Calvinists. Almost 15 Million ex roman catholics in the United States are now practicing and communing Protestants and many of us a Calvinist Protestants.

The following pieces attest to why I believe I became a Presbyterian. The early church was Presbyterian…read the following for your self. Rome and popery corrupted the church the bible and the 2 sacraments of the Lords Supper and baptism. Then they added other sacraments not instituted by Christ and even added books to the holy bible.

Calvin restored the apostolic church to its true roots Presbyterianism...Yes the early church was Presbyterian and reformed....

"The Papists think the Protestant Doctrine is dangerous to Salvation; and the Protestants know the Popish Doctrine to be so."—Matthew Poole, The Nullity of the Romish Faith. (1666.).

Paul, as every Bible reader is aware, directed Titus to "ordain elders in every city" in Crete (Titus 1:5), as he himself had been in the habit of doing "in every church" on his missionary tours (Acts 14: 23). Notice that word "elders", if you will, for in it the whole subject comes to a focus. The Greek word which lies behind it, if we turn it into English letters and Anglicize it, is presbyter, from which, of course, we have the noun and adjective Presbyterian. The elders or presbyters were the teaching and ruling officers of the New Testament church as it came from the hands of Christ and the Apostles. The teaching elders were also called "ministers" (1 Cor. 3:5; 4:1), and "preachers" (1 Tim. 2:7). Ordinarily, therefore, for brevity’s sake, we drop the words "teaching" and "ruling", and designate these two classes of presbyters more simply as "ministers and elders". But since they were all of them "elders" or "presbyters", the whole Apostolic Church was Presbyterian, and nothing else than Presbyterian, in its original organization. Its government was a government by presbyters.

In Faith,
Dudley

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May we all be Sons of the Reformation and continue to proclaim what it means to be Reformed Protestant Christians!

The man must be sincere what he believes. But he is amazingly wrong.

I think he is someone to pray for. Maybe God in time will open up his ear, eyes, and heart that he will see his error.

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Michael McNeil
PCA
Ellicott City, MD
www.spepchurch.com

When I was in college (20 years ago), there was a similar guy named "Brother Jim" who would come to campus and "preach" to crowds of mostly mockers. But (similar to this guy) he would do certain things to antagonize the crowd and generate responses. He would make suggestive actions and/or comments and then condemn the crowd when they reacted in a bad way.

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"Wherever the gospel is preached, it is as if God Himself came into the midst of us." ~ John Calvin

That sounds really familiar. When this guy came to my campus last fall, a Christian friend of mine was in ROTC uniform and he and some ROTC friends were walking by, and Morrell pointed at them and shouted, "You baby killers!" and my friend responded, "I'm going to be a dentist!" causing a bout of laughter among the crowd. (I'm not sure what the military has to do with babies...can someone help me understand his accusation?)

I've been told by other friends that the way he gathered the crowd in the first place was by pointing at passersby and calling them homosexuals and declaring their damnation. Sick.

On the guy who got slapped in that second video: he's not reaching anyone in that hostile crowd not least because he's a caricature - all the crowd can see is the stereotype of a fundamentalist (complete with suspenders!). To them, he's something straight out of a movie or maybe some standup comics idea of an ignorant fundy straight out of the 1920s. The crowd is too busy being fascinated by the "anachronism" to pay any attention to his message, such as that was...

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Ruling Elder, OPC (not currently serving)
Westminster Presbyterian Church, CA (OPC)
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Devout souls do not take offence at the depths and difficulties of God's Word, but are, thereby, drawn to intenser contemplation of them. - Alexander Maclaren (1826-1910)

Ditto!

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The term Baby Killer dates to the Vietman War era when returning soldiers were met by anti-war protesters who accused vets of killing innocent Vietnamese babies and people. It's a derogatory term to call a soilder a Baby Killer.

This sounds like an entirely unchristian-like behavior.. Things like this makes me wonder if we'll be better off without street preachers at all.

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Ewen
1689 LBCF
Assemblies of God Bible College
Singapore

The guys over at Reformedevangelist.com have a podcast I have listened to a few times. They are all street preachers and seem to be presenting the gospel straight forward from their stuff I've seen on youtube. They have talked about Jesse Morrell, they all met at the Way of the Master street preacher bootcamps (whatever their called). They have talked about how they all and Jesse used to preach the WOTM style stuff, the guys on that site moved on to a reformed sotierology and more biblical style of presenting the gospel (without the bait and switch of the wotm style). And Jesse apostatized into open theism and other heretical thoughts and started this kinda garbage. Ive heard a lot the things he has said and well "baby killers" doesn't surprise me.

At one time someone had called Matt Slick of CARM on his Faith and Reason Podcast and they were trying to get Jesse to call in there. I dont know if he ever did it would be interesting to hear his interactions with Matt Slick though, I'll have to look it up later today and see.

Thank you. I think I've just revealed my youth.