I have always disliked the term "unchurched" but notice that it is widely used on this board.

My understanding of the word is that it seeks to minimise the difference between those inside and those outside the Church, so as not to make those who do not attend Church feel excluded. Essentially everyone is within the ambit of the Church, they just do not know it yet.

Am I reading too much into the term or should it be avoided?

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Mike
London City Presbyterian Church
London
England

"Surely, we wish to be orthodox, but we must first learn what real orthodoxy is. Surely, we wish to be progressive, but we must first have a basis to progress from."

If you were to call someone unAmerican, are we assuming that everyone is American and they just don't know it yet?

"Un" means not. So I don't think you can read that much into it.

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Fraser,
Trinity Reformed Baptist Church
Hamilton, New Zealand.

I suppose you could call them the "un-elected."

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Rangerus
Southern Baptist
Austin, TX
Teacher and Volunteer
1689 LBCF & BF&M 2000

More like the "un-showing fruits of election"

Interesting.

With the people I know the term unchurched is used for born again believers who for whatever reason do not currently attend church. (Usually they used to and the church went off into liberalism or Toronto blessing or abusive authority or something, and they are still wary of going elsewhere.)

Not sure what the PB usage is though.....

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Lynnie

PCA

Central NJ

This makes sense as a usage, in that once being partakers of the covenant they have due standing to be termed un-churched.

I never cared much for the term "unchurched". For some reason it makes me think of "by birth you are member of the church of the realm, but at present you are not attending the church" i.e., you are "a member of the church, who happens to be unchurched at the moment." I know that is not what people mean when they use it, but that runs through my head when I hear it. Maybe it comes from some forgotten lecture on the Church of England in seminary.

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Lance G. Marshall
Pastor
Georgetown, Indiana

This is how I've heard the term as well. Many people have gotten sick and tired of the church politics and have decided to be unchurched believers.

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Julio Perez
Visting Branch of Hope OPC hoping this will be my home church.....


“No…we are all priests. Your vocation and your contentment in your vocation should not be dependent upon your being in vocational ministry or in being a figure of public acclaim. If God wills that fine…if He does not do that, you ought to still do what he has granted you to do to the glory of God.”

-Martin Luther

I guess I'll have to adjust my ignorance--I thought it referred to those who had never attended church beyond the occasional wedding or vacation Bible school.

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Anna
Wife of Tim/Marrow Man
Louisville, KY
Member of Midlane Park Presbyterian (Associate Reformed Presbyterian)

A person may be unchurched in the sense of not being among the elect, and therefore not part of the invisible church. Only God can identify these.

Some of the elect may not yet have come to saving faith or been incorporated into the visible church, and may therefore yet be unchurched, unless they as covenant children are part of the visible church before profession of faith.

But, the term seems appropriate for those who are not part of the visible church. If one can not tell us to whom they are accountable in Christ’s body (in a Hebrews 13:7, 17 sense), they are unchurched, even if attending worship regularly. Some independent ministers of independent congregations are thus unchurched.

There are unchurched seekers attending worship, or with a favorable attitude toward the gospel and the more overt and hostile unchurched.

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Glenn Ferrell
Pastor, Sovereign Redeemer Presbyterian Church (OPC)
Boise, Idaho

http://sovereignredeemer.org

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Nec Tamen Consumebatur


The duty of magistrates...extends to both tables of the law, ... those laws are absurd which disregard the rights of God, and consult only for men. - Calvin, Institutes, IV:20:9

I had heard this group referred to as the dechurched. That is they have removed themselves. for a variety of reasons, from the visible church.

I tend to think of the unchurched as those who do not go to church, have never really been associated with any church and have never made any profession of faith.

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Donnie MacLeod
Crossroads Presbyterian Fellowship (PCA), Maplewood, MO
MDiv Student Covenant Theological Seminary

You filled my heart with greater joy
than others may have found
As they rejoiced at harvest time,
when grain and wine abound.Ps 4:7, Sing Psalms 2003

I've used the term to describe someone who was not raised as a Christian (was 'unchurched') but came to Christ later in life. I qualify under this definition.

Theognome

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Bill Cunningham
Covenant Reformed Church, URC
Kansas City
There are three kinds of people- those who can count, and those who can't.

I define "unchurched" pretty simply: a believer not part of a local church.

I won't define an unbeliever as an unchurched person because until they are part of the church there is no benefit to being a part of a church (although certainly the Lord may save them through the teachings of a church).

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Andrew Thornquist My Photo Album
Calvinistic Baptist
Ukiah, California
To follow Christ was the best decision God made for me!

I like what you had to say here. I'm currently writing a blog on this attitude of unChurched (which sounds a lot like some weird application to the iPod Touch). My basic idea is that when confessionally bound, as the catholic church has always held (St. Cyprian's claim, "Out of the catholic [universal] church there is no salvation"), is that to be part of the universal church one must by necessary means belong to the visible church. I even take it a bit further; I call it a sin to not be under the discipline of a church, i.e., its elders, deacons, and general assemblies/synods. I also have to redefine what the term "church" means from both the LXX and in the new covenant. I do that through a thorough study of covenant theology.

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Julio Martinez Jr.
Member of Grace Presbyterian Church (PCA)
My Blog
"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge;
because you have rejected knowledge,
I reject you from being a priest to me.
And since you have forgotten the law of your God,
I also will forget your children." Hosea 4:6, ESV

That too is my usual usage of the word.

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Scott - Dallas, Texas - Faith OPC

"It is not what a lawyer tells me I may do; but what humanity, reason, and justice tell me I ought to do." - Edmund Burke

I always understood it as those who are not believers, thus the 'seeker-sensitive' churches were made for the 'unchurched' and were therefore toned down so as not to scare them and keep them out of church. That's the context I've heard it used in, anyway.

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Kevin, husband of a truly angelic woman, and father to ten.
Zion United Reformed Church of Sheffield
Ontario, Canada

Has anyone here done a study of what the Old Testament Church looked like?

This is how I have heard the term used. It means those who have had nothing to do with the church throughout their lives, and therefore would not know anything much of Christianity or the structure of a church service. Used to distinguish between them and other unbelievers who may have been church attenders at one point in their lives, and so would have a little more knowledge.

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T W Hopper
Member, Presbyterian Reformed Church
Currently between churches since PRC closed here - attending Crossroads Christian Church.
Canberra, Australia.

I've always been suspicious of a term that has gained popular usage in "church growth" circles. While the historic term "unregenerate" or "the lost" looks deeper to the state of one's heart, the term "unchurched" shifts the focus to a person's outward, visible relationship to a local congregation. Hence, the church marketeers water down the gospel presentation over against "just getting them in" by whatever means necessary. They then defend themselves by pointing to the swelling numbers they have tricked into attending, without considering the fact that all they've done is herded a bunch of goats together.

Which is tragic, as now these goats are given false assurance of their salvation and are more hardened against the gospel since church leaders have proclaimed them "churched".

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Mark Van Der Molen
Immanuel URC
DeMotte, Indiana