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Old 11-25-2008, 06:56 PM
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Need articels:Evangelism not through a organisation but only through the local church

I need articels were it is explained clearly that evangelism alway must be under the authority of a local church and not by a evangelistic organisation which has no drect accountablity towards a local church.
Any information or links ?
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I just found the next links:

The Local Church and Evangelism by Erroll Hulse
SermonAudio.com - The Local Church and Evangelism Pt 11

Any more ?
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Parachurch-So what’s the problem? « Reformed Baptist Fellowship

Check the comments to see my objections.


ParaChurch—Does the end justify the means? « Reformed Baptist Fellowship


Also check the comments to see my objections. I think the articles are one-sided and reactionary. The book of Acts gives us examples very close to modern missionary societies.
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Thanks a lot for posting those articles. Best reasoned defense/explanation of parachurch orgs I've heard. Good stuff to think about.

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Your objections, I mean. I just realized, that was kind of ambiguous.
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Parachurch-So what’s the problem? « Reformed Baptist Fellowship

Check the comments to see my objections.


ParaChurch—Does the end justify the means? « Reformed Baptist Fellowship


Also check the comments to see my objections. I think the articles are one-sided and reactionary. The book of Acts gives us examples very close to modern missionary societies.
Thanks alot for the link!

See als:

http://web.mac.com/lcm7/Site/By_The_...Ministries.pdf

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/9793/para.htm

http://www.thechristianobserver.com/...church-groups/
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Parachurch-So what’s the problem? « Reformed Baptist Fellowship

Check the comments to see my objections.


ParaChurch—Does the end justify the means? « Reformed Baptist Fellowship


Also check the comments to see my objections. I think the articles are one-sided and reactionary. The book of Acts gives us examples very close to modern missionary societies.
Thanks alot for the link!

See als:

http://web.mac.com/lcm7/Site/By_The_...Ministries.pdf

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/9793/para.htm

What Do I Think of Parachurch Groups? | The Christian Observer


The Christian Observer article says: God’s purpose in this world is to be worked out in and through His Church - the local church.


Prove this.


God works through his Church (big C) and parachurch orgs are often collaborations of different churches sending their people to partner together. They ARE the work of the worldwide Church.






The Church was instituted by God. In local places, there are specific manifestations of this Church (i.e. local churches).
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Parachurch-So what’s the problem? « Reformed Baptist Fellowship

Check the comments to see my objections.


ParaChurch—Does the end justify the means? « Reformed Baptist Fellowship


Also check the comments to see my objections. I think the articles are one-sided and reactionary. The book of Acts gives us examples very close to modern missionary societies.
Thanks alot for the link!

See als:

http://web.mac.com/lcm7/Site/By_The_...Ministries.pdf

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/9793/para.htm

What Do I Think of Parachurch Groups? | The Christian Observer
About the Fairhavenbaptist site:


This site is written in typical Fundy overspeak.


When Christ said that the gates of hell would not prevail against the Church, he had "the Church (big C)" in mind. There is no need to make every reading of the church in the NT to be a local church. The Devil does succeed and ruins many local churches, but the universal Big C Church of God cannot fail.

The Apostle Paul recruited Timothy, the Antiochan church did not.

The apostle Paul and his band chose where tominister; Antioch did not.

Paul's apostolic band recruited others, made decisions of where to go and generally operated semi-autonomously from the church that they came out from - i.e. their leadership was field-based, not based in the rear.
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Real story:

I know a Fundy-flavored Sovereign Grace Baptist pastor that runs a camp. He preaches powerfully and his preaching concentrates a lot of decrying every tenet of modern Christianity (i.e. his message is mostly a negative one..."against" others rather than for the Gospel). He also dissed parachurches.

When his church shrunk down to just his own extended family there was not enough people to sit on the governing board of this camp. Therefore, he invited men from other churches onto this board........

....i.e. he created a parachurch.






Many churches diss parachurches, but then when they actually get ambitious and want to do anything they are stuck in a quandary.

The Presbyterians have no problem with this is they have a denominational mission like the PCA's Mission to the World, but others do have a problem in that they cut off their own legs and then bemoan the fact that there are so many missionary needs.
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My mission org is governed by a group of elders/pastors from the churches that send the missionaries through my org - i.e. the local churches that send their missionaries are represented. i.e. there is accountability to local churches, just not one local church only.
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A frequent argument is that mission societies and parachurches are not the church and God has only instituted the church to do his work.

But this denies the fact that the worldwide church does participate in missions through mission societies because local churches send their people to group together in voluntary association for the furtherance of the Gospel. I.e. the church in the form of sent-out Christians make up missionary societies and are as such part of the worldwide church.

God has established the Big C church as His Agent of transformation inthe world and as Christian within this worldwise church we may be sent out like those in Acts to "the field", i.e., wherever thereis need and once on the field partner togetheer with others and make semi-autnomous field-based decisions once there.
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