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View Poll Results: What do you wear in the Parish and/or the Pulpit?
Geneva Gown in the Pulpit and Suit/Tie in the Parish 0 0%
Geneva Gown and a Collar in the Pulpit and in the Parish 0 0%
Geneva Gown and a Collar in the Pulpit, Suit/Tie in the Parish 1 4.17%
Geneva Gown and a Collar in the Pulpit, Collar on Special Occasions Otherwise Suit/Tie 4 16.67%
Suit and Tie in both Parish and Pulpit 3 12.50%
None of the Above 6 25.00%
Suit/Tie in Pulpit and Business Casual in Parish 10 41.67%
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Old 05-14-2008, 12:59 PM
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Building off the Collar Discussion

So there seems to be pretty 50/50 split among the PB as far as this issue goes concerning collars and Geneva Gowns. Without getting into a theology discussion (which can continue at the original thread) I would like to know by way of poll who does wear what in the pulpit and daily in the Parish.
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Where is the poll?

I wear a shirt and tie with no jacket. (All of which I purchased at Ross)

I also wear glasses.

I heard Bob wears only a towel.
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I voted none of the above. I wear a Geneva Gown on the pulpit, but usually dress semi-formal in my day to day pastoral work. I generally only wear a tie and jacket when visiting elderly members or when chairing meetings. I hate ties.
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To clarify I did not mean by "Shirt/Tie" literally shirt and tie but simply that one did not wear a collar or Geneva Gown.
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What do you mean by 'parish'? Do you mean 'around town'? Or anytime you are in an official capacity outside of the Lord's Day service?
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:38 PM
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Usually sportcoat and sometimes tie during week.
GEneva gown Sunday AM, suit Sunday PM. Not sure why, pattern established by predecessor.
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If you answer "none of the above" does that include nudist ministers?
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Suit and tie in the AM
Sportcoat without tie in PM
Business casual during the week

(Hence the new poll option).
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What do you mean by 'parish'? Do you mean 'around town'? Or anytime you are in an official capacity outside of the Lord's Day service?
Well if you wear a collar "around town" then you would select option 2 if just for special occasions other than the Lord's Day then option 4.
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During the Divine service I wear a "Wittenberg Gown" . . . we Calvinists simply borrowed Luther's practice.

Under it I wear a shirt and tie, but am conflicted about that, since this is business attire. Yet, I tried the dog collar but it was uncomfortable as well as confusing to people. If I could find some sort of dress shirt without a place for a necktie I'd wear that.

The only time I wear a suit is at Classis and Synod meetings.
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What do you mean by 'parish'? Do you mean 'around town'? Or anytime you are in an official capacity outside of the Lord's Day service?
Well if you wear a collar "around town" then you would select option 2 if just for special occasions other than the Lord's Day then option 4.
Are there some who wear the gown 'around town'? I have never seen that before.
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Well that would refer to the collar of course. Did not think I needed to make that distinction.
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I wear either a Geneva gown or a blue gown with a white stole (on occasion). I usually wear a suit on the Lord's Day unless I am doing a hospital visitation and then I wear the collar (wuff, wuff). I dress business casual unless I am at the hospital or presiding in some capacity as a minister and then I wear the collar.
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Suit and tie in the pulpit unless it is very hot, in which case shirt and tie. On rare occasions remove tie in hymn/psalm before sermon due to extreme heat. Who designed our church building with a glass roof? Imbeciles! I blame that Robert Schuller fellow.

Out of the pulpit - whatever. I will always make sure I have clean trousers and shirt on if I am doing anything church related but it is pretty casual. When I am cleaning the church building I may even be wearing shorts and a t-shirt. It gets hot in there!

One church planting pastor I knew NEVER did ANYTHING without shirt and tie on. They had managed to acquire an old chapel for meetings, and he was down there bringing it back into use day by day, sanding the pews. I will never forget going over to greet him, and being amazed that underneath his wood-stained t-shirt there was... a shirt and tie!!
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What do y'all wear when you go to the post office? Do you wear a collar when in public in a different town than your church?
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In light of WHI yesterday what do y'all think about the informality of our age and how it fits into this discussion.
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In light of WHI yesterday what do y'all think about the informality of our age and how it fits into this discussion.
What does 'WHI' mean?

BTW, I still would lilke to know what the definition of 'parish' is...
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White Horse Inn. Find and listen to it here.

As far as "Parish" that in short means the area in which you minister.
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White Horse Inn. Find and listen to it here.

As far as "Parish" that in short means the area in which you minister.
The geographic location or the families whom you shepherd?
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I voted what my Pastor does, not as a Pastor.
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If I go to a restaurant with my wife in the town where I am pastor, am I in the parish? Or do I have to be on some official church business to be considered 'in the parish'?
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Prudence would decide.
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It gets hot in there!
Hot? Hot? What's "hot" to you - maybe 65 degrees? What do you English know about heat? Go visit Texas some day; they'll tell you all about heat!
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