Affiliation of PB Members

fredtgreco · #1 (**permalink**) 07-23-2004, 12:37 AM

It's been a while since we did anything like this, so I am curious now that the Board is up and running at ahead at full steam.

What is your ecclesiastical affiliation?

permalink · #2 (**permalink**) 07-23-2004, 05:19 AM

A note of explanation. My church is baptist, but I would not call this an 'affiliation' or a 'denomination' unless it is a denomination of one!

I voted 'non-denom' for this reason. In the UK, there are many baptist churches in the same situation. Some are in the (mostly liberal) Baptist Union - but you would be hard pressed to find a church in the union that you could happily attend! Some are in the (increasingly charismatic particularly in worship terms but not overridingly so) Fellowship of Independent Evangelical Churches. Some belong to local associations, but many belong to absolutely nothing at all.

Steadfast · #3 (**permalink**) 07-23-2004, 07:44 AM

I'm currently in a PCA Church Plant though I was Reformed in the OPC...

Much cross-pollenation between these two sister denominations of course...so, nothing strange here...

Puritan Sailor · #4 (**permalink**) 07-23-2004, 09:40 AM

Uh Fred, you forgot our Dutch brothers

fredtgreco · #5 (**permalink**) 07-23-2004, 10:07 AM

Van Whoops!

fredtgreco · #6 (**permalink**) 07-23-2004, 10:12 AM

Ok - two "other Presbyterian" What is that? ARP? RPCNA?

panicbird · #7 (**permalink**) 07-23-2004, 10:53 AM

Who is the other Southern Baptist?

Lon

sastark · #8 (**permalink**) 07-23-2004, 12:03 PM

CARPC (Covenanting Association of Reformed and Presbyterian Churches)

See http://www.gpcredding.org/new_home.html for details.

humble_soul · #9 (**permalink**) 07-23-2004, 02:17 PM

Yes, please post your affiliation too.

PCA for me.

pastorway · #10 (**permalink**) 08-02-2004, 10:45 PM

[color=red:7fba3975ea][size=26:7fba3975ea]F.I.R.E.!!!!![/size:7fba3975ea][/color:7fba3975ea]

Me Died Blue · #11 (**permalink**) 08-07-2004, 11:59 PM

I'll definitely be in a PCA church in a few weeks, in light of the fact that all the Reformed Presbyterian churches in my college area are PCA. Also, a question as to the poll: Why was Methodist listed, since Methodist churches are overwhelmingly Arminian?

panicbird · #12 (**permalink**) 08-08-2004, 07:44 PM

[quote:7cbcb803bf="Me Died Blue"]I'll definitely be in a PCA church in a few weeks, in light of the fact that all the Reformed Presbyterian churches in my college area are PCA. Also, a question as to the poll: Why was Methodist listed, since Methodist churches are overwhelmingly Arminian?[/quote:7cbcb803bf]

Two possible answers:
1) It is possible to be reformed in an Arminian church. Difficult, but possible.

2) Maybe there are some Calvinistic, Whitefieldian Methodists on here. I doubt that there are, but it would be cool is there were.

Lon

turmeric · #13 (**permalink**) 08-08-2004, 08:04 PM

What is a Calvinistic Methodist? I had no idea Whitfield was a Methodist! Why?

Hmmm, second work of grace also monergistic? just wondering, it's the only methodist distinctive I know, and most don't believe in it now.

Craig · #14 (**permalink**) 08-08-2004, 10:20 PM

I believe the sort of Methodist that Whitefield was wasn't anything like the "entire sanctification" that Wesley promoted. He was simply concerned with personal holiness. Members of the group he, and the Wesleys formed, were called "the methodists" since they were so methodical about living holy lives. Whitefield's methodism is a far cry from what Wesley took it to.

panicbird · #15 (**permalink**) 08-08-2004, 10:30 PM

[quote:1e4cf43f49="Craig"]I believe the sort of Methodist that Whitefield was wasn't anything like the "entire sanctification" that Wesley promoted. He was simply concerned with personal holiness. Members of the group he, and the Wesleys formed, were called "the methodists" since they were so methodical about living holy lives. Whitefield's methodism is a far cry from what Wesley took it to.[/quote:1e4cf43f49]

That is basically right, although I would want to add that Whitefield, not Wesley, was the actual founder of Methodism. It is an interesting story as to how it came about that Wesley is credited with founding it. There was at first two "Methodisms": Wesleyan, Arminian and Whitefieldian, Calvinistic. Whitefield and the Wesleys attempted to bring the two camps together, but could not work things out (because of the doctrine of election and the Wesleyan doctrine of perfectionism). Whitefield realized that they would never come to terms for a unification. Instead of being bull-headed and continuing on with his own brand of Methodism, Whitefield backed off, basically letting Wesley have Methodism. He said, "Let the name of Whitefield perish, but Christ be glorified." What a great and godly man Whitefield was. May there be more like him in our day.

Lon

Scot · #16 (**permalink**) 08-08-2004, 11:40 PM

Wasn't Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones somehow affiliated with a Welsh Calvinistic Methodist church? I thought I read somewhere that he grew up in one. Not sure.

turmeric · #17 (**permalink**) 08-09-2004, 11:49 AM

Thanks for the education, guys. As the actor on SNL used to say imitating Johny Carson; "I did not know that". A methodical approach to the means of grace - not such a bad idea!

Ianterrell · #18 (**permalink**) 08-09-2004, 10:08 PM

I'm currently attending Ridgefield Park Reformed Presbyterian (RPCNA)with the intent of being accepted into the membership.

luvroftheWord · #19 (**permalink**) 08-09-2004, 10:30 PM

St Paul's Presbyterian Church (PCA) of Winter Park, Florida, baby!

py3ak · #20 (**permalink**) 08-10-2004, 12:32 AM

There is an Evangelical Methodist church in Darlington, MD --and an Evangelical Methodist missionary in Jamaica. They are Calvinists.
The church Lloyd-Jones grew up in, and where he pastored for ten years was indeed a Calvinistic Methodist church. A Canadian reporter was extremely surprised to hear about it from Lloyd-Jones --the interview transcript is rather amusing. It's in Iain Murray's biography of the Dr. Lloyd-Jones. Lloyd-Jones himself, though, stated that it was basically a Presbyterian denomination.