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What's your eschatological position?
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tentatively a partial-preterist amil
Ben Castaneda
Intern at New Life Presbyterian Church (PCA)
MDiv student at WSC
Escondido, CA
"Not all prison bars are made from metal, And not all prisoners walk about in chains." -Lysander from Weatherby, Earl of Gloucester
Iron Dramatist
See this poll, from about 8 months ago....
Todd K. Pedlar
member, First Congregational Church, (CCCC) Cresco, IA
My Blog: In Principio Deus
Podcast I co-host: Covenant Radio
"As God did not at first choose you because you were high, He will not now forsake you because you are low."
John Flavel in Keeping the Heart
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Puritanboard Senior
Originally Posted by toddpedlar
Has it been 8 months? Seems like only yesterday.
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~Beth Ellen Nagle~
Lakeside Church -Wales, WI (PCA)
Married to John
One wonderful daughter, Chaela Joelle
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Puritanboard Junior
I grew up Premill-Dispy (though I had no idea what the term meant). I then went to Amill and now (the more I listen to my Bahnsen mp3's) I am walking a tight rope between Amill and Postmill. Dispy to me = a vague and impossible memory. Postmill = a definite probability.
Kevin - PCA - Mississippi
"What, for some, is sin, others do to the glory of God. And the good Dr. Pentecost's remarks notwithstanding, I intend to go home tonight and smoke a cigar to the glory of God. It is a kind of incense drifting to Heaven." - Charles Spurgeon
"Thanks be to God for His indescribable gift!" - 2 Corinthians 9:15
Puritanboard Postgraduate
Nicolae Carpathia uses a Mac, too.
Andrew ThornquistMy Photo Album
Calvinistic Baptist
Ukiah, California
To follow Christ was the best decision God made for me!
Puritanboard Graduate
My option wasn't posted- Historical Optimistic Amillennial (Historic as opposed to Futuristic, Preterist, etc...)
Theognome
Bill Cunningham
Covenant Reformed Church, URC
Kansas City
There are three kinds of people- those who can count, and those who can't.
Puritanboard Freshman
why so many postmills? ...
"Bible knowledge without repentance, will be but a torch to light men to hell. -Thomas Watson
United Through Christ
Ricky Heeb
Puritanboard Freshman
I knew there was a reason I use a PC.
Aaron
Coram Deo Fellowship (CBA)
Portland, OR
We must pray that God would give us sorrow over dishonoring Him so.
"Bible study is never complete until it results in worship." -Lee Fields
Puritanboard Graduate
Couldn't resist this one...because, here, on the Puritanboard, so many of us read our Bibles.
soli Deo gloria!
~Nicholas~ Ordained Pastor
Member, Fulton PCA; GPTS Student
Christians are like snow covered dung; it is the purity of the covering which the Father sees. -Luther-
There is nothing more ugly than a Christian orthodoxy without understanding or without compassion.
-Francis Schaeffer-
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Postmill
w
Puritanboard Junior
unfortunately many of my Baptist brethren are still PreTrib-Premillennial and defend it like their life depended on it. I suspect like me they were all taught this growing up in the 60's, 70's and 80's in the days of rampant dispensationalism.
Rangerus
Southern Baptist
Austin, TX
Teacher and Volunteer
1689 LBCF & BF&M 2000
Puritanboard Senior
Amillennial
Wayne Whitmer
Member, Rio Rancho OPC
Albuquerque, NM
Norseman Moderator
Me also.
Norseman Moderator
R. Martin Snyder
1689er
http://www.puritanboard.com/blogs/puritancovenanter/
"Our object should not be to have scripture on our side but to be on the side of scripture; and however dear any sentiment may have become by being long entertained, so soon as it is seen to be contrary to the Bible, we must be prepared to abandon it without hesitation."
William Symington
Puritanboard Junior
Ooh! That's harsh.Couldn't resist this one...because, here, on the Puritanboard, so many of us read our Bibles.
Ben Castaneda
Intern at New Life Presbyterian Church (PCA)
MDiv student at WSC
Escondido, CA
"Not all prison bars are made from metal, And not all prisoners walk about in chains." -Lysander from Weatherby, Earl of Gloucester
Puritanboard Graduate
I know...but he set it up sooo nicely.Ooh! That's harsh.Couldn't resist this one...because, here, on the Puritanboard, so many of us read our Bibles.
soli Deo gloria!
~Nicholas~ Ordained Pastor
Member, Fulton PCA; GPTS Student
Christians are like snow covered dung; it is the purity of the covering which the Father sees. -Luther-
There is nothing more ugly than a Christian orthodoxy without understanding or without compassion.
-Francis Schaeffer-
Norseman Moderator
If I had two books to read on the subject I would read Clouses four views book and The Promise of the Future by President of Mid-America Reformed Seminary Cornelis P. Venema. I would also recommend a reading of Messiah the Prince by William Symington even though it doesn't discuss eschatology in the way you are looking for but it does lay a foundation that many don't have concerning Christ and His Government of this world.
Dr. Venema discusses the history behind the doctrinal understandings that most books do not discuss. Post Mil and A mil are really classified as the same until recently, even though they differ in modern day terms of the Kingdom and it's relationship here on earth.
Norseman Moderator
R. Martin Snyder
1689er
http://www.puritanboard.com/blogs/puritancovenanter/
"Our object should not be to have scripture on our side but to be on the side of scripture; and however dear any sentiment may have become by being long entertained, so soon as it is seen to be contrary to the Bible, we must be prepared to abandon it without hesitation."
William Symington
Calvinist Cowboy (04-20-2009)
Puritanboard Doctor
Amillinial
Martin - Reformed
Husband to the most godly, honorable and loyal wife Line
Searching for a Church
Webpage www.5solas.dk
Free Online Reformed Seminary - http://www.tnars.net
Soli Deo Gloria
Puritanboard Graduate
Toni Cunningham, Wife of Bill (Theognome)
Parkwoods OPC, Overland Park KS
"Vice is a monster of so frightful mien, As, to be hated, needs but to be seen; Yet seen too oft, familiar with her face, We first endure, then pity, then embrace." ~ Alexander Pope
Anton Bruckner (04-21-2009)
Puritanboard Senior
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Well, okay, I have SOME idea. But not enough to know which is which. That's my next planned area of study after I finish my current one.
Jonathan, A.A.S.
Audio Engineer
Reformed Baptist
Ohio
Honor (08-24-2009)
Puritanboard Freshman
hmm, i guess i can't harmonize total depravity and 1,000 years of okey dokieness together...
"Bible knowledge without repentance, will be but a torch to light men to hell. -Thomas Watson
United Through Christ
Ricky Heeb
Puritanboard Doctor
C'mon now this is something that needs polled about every 6 months...
-----Added 4/21/2009 at 09:11:53 EST-----
I highly recommend Venema's book. It is one of the few A-Mill books that gives a fair shake to Post-Millennial eschatology. For the interested I think the best Post-Mill book out right now is Keith Mathison's Postmillenialism: An Eschatology of Hope. I also hope (no pun intended) to pick this book up soon, also by Keith Mathison called From Age to Age: The Unfolding of Biblical Eschatology.
-----Added 4/21/2009 at 09:13:51 EST-----
Also a discussion of Eschatology cannot go without mentioning the creme de la creme of eschatology books. Iain Murray's The Puritan Hope.
Benjamin P. Glaser, M. Div, Licentiate, Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church
Ruling Elder Fairmount ARP Church
Pittsburgh, PA
"I am as happy as perhaps creation can make me. I enjoy all the necessaries and most of the conveniences of life. I have a peaceful study as a refuge from the hurries and noise of the world around me, the venerable dead are waiting in my library to entertain me..." --Samuel Davies
Deo Vindice
Knoxienne (04-21-2009)
Puritanboard Junior
I would have to say that I am sort of a partial-preterist/Amil. I believe most of the prophecy in the NT pertained to the first century audience and Revelation was probably written prior to the destruction of the Temple. I also believe that all of the "Lion with lamb" verses pertain to the time when creation has been restored back to its original glory, after the resurrection.
Erick Bohndorf, Redeemer Presbyterian PCA
http://qayaqtraveler.blogspot.com/
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pr...90&ref=profile
Here is what I have seen to be good and fitting: to eat, to drink and enjoy oneself in all one’s labor in which he toils under the sun during the few years of his life which God has given him; for this is his reward. Ecclesiastes
Meum cerebrum nocet
Having read each and EVERY one of the Left Behind books as a NON pre-tribber, I'm either a glutton for punishment or terribly confused. After decades in the historic premill camp (Gundry was my college prof for 32 units and Ladd was my prof in seminary), Riddlebarger's wonderful book won me over to the amil side pretty decisively.
Dennis E. McFadden, Ex Mainline Baptist (in Remission)
Atherton Baptist Homes, CEO
First Baptist Church of Alhambra, Member, Transformation Ministries (CA)
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Puritanboard Doctor
I confess - I haven't sat down with this one lately as I was working out all my other kinks. However, a few years ago and with the help of my husband and the PB, I did pull away from my dispy position and into a historic premil one. I'm riding the fence of postmil while my husband seems to be between postmil and amil.
JC - PCA - PA...homesick for SC
A we n' de Ya, ho; I mak sikker; Deus juvat
Indicabo tibi o homo quid sit bonum, et quid Dominus requirat a te: Utique facere iudicium, et diligere, misericordiam, et sollicitum ambulare cum Deo tuo. Michaeas 6:8
"Who says you can't go back, been all around the world and as a matter of fact. There's only one place left I want to go, who says you can't go home" Bon Jovi
Puritanboard Doctor
I'm is the correct one...amill!Know a good thing when I see!
sarah
providence (Only Perfect Church)
wi coldest snowiest state in the union
RN working towards photographer
Puritanboard Postgraduate
I used to be completely and absolutely convinced of amil eschatology... but with all the stuff going on in the world: talk of a world currency, the rise of The One.... man, I'm beginning to wonder if it is at least a little bit possible that Nicolae Carpathia is alive!
Ben
Chaplain, US Army
Ft. Riley, KS
TE Ohio Valley Presbytery, PCA
Puritanboard Doctor
I have taken to reading my Bible with newspaper in hand. Wait, I don't get a newspaper. I have no hope of being able to tell what is happening. I have no chance of properly interpreting Scripture.
Man, I'm glad I was never a dispensationalist.
We shall not adjust our Bible to the age; but before we have done with it, by God's grace, we shall adjust the age to the Bible. - Charles Haddon Spurgeon
Lawrence Underwood, Jr.
Pastor - Providence Family Fellowship / Mobile, Alabama
1644/46 LBC
My Blog - Imprimis
kalawine (05-02-2009)
Puritanboard Senior
Amillenial
Puritanboard Graduate
Oh, well, at least you drink beer!I'm is the correct one...amill!
Toni Cunningham, Wife of Bill (Theognome)
Parkwoods OPC, Overland Park KS
"Vice is a monster of so frightful mien, As, to be hated, needs but to be seen; Yet seen too oft, familiar with her face, We first endure, then pity, then embrace." ~ Alexander Pope
kalawine (05-02-2009)
Puritanboard Junior
Amillenial Postmillenial.
I believe the millenium and the binding of Satan started in the first century, but I believe the Church will grow until it fills the earth and the Gospel leavens the whole earth. Then there will be anotherfinal falling away.
Richard
communicant member, FCoS
Perth, Scotland UK
His Name forever shall endure;
last like the sun it shall:
Men shall be blessed in Him,
and blessed all nations shall Him call (Ps. 72:17)
Beth Ellen Nagle (04-21-2009), kalawine (05-02-2009)
Puritanboard Postgraduate
Optimistic amillenial
~Jay~
Husband of ENS, father of J II. | Indian Trail, NC
disabled - cancer
Communicant Member, Precentor | Presbyterian Reformed Church of Charlotte, NC | Presbyterian Reformed Church
Administrator
My current eschatalogical position is somewhere before the end.
Josh
CCRPC, RPCGA
Board Rules -Signature Rules
How absurd a tenet is this, which holdeth that there is some particular worship of God allowed, and not commanded? What new light is this which maketh all our divines to have been in the mist, who have acknowledged no worship of God, but that which God hath commanded? Who ever heard of commanded and allowed worship? - George Gillespie
Puritanboard Postgraduate
Just in case anyone was getting worried... I was kidding.
Ben
Chaplain, US Army
Ft. Riley, KS
TE Ohio Valley Presbytery, PCA
HokieAirman (04-21-2009), kalawine (05-02-2009)
Puritanboard Sophomore
Amill. I think the problem of evil following the second coming of Jesus is a seriously good argument against the premil positions.
Steven Nemes
Phoenix, AZ
Good philosophy must exist, if for no other reason, because bad philosophy must be answered - C.S. Lewis
Puritanboard Freshman
I favoured Postmillinalism but now I would say I am an glassi s half empty cracked and leaking Amilinialist.
Aaron
Independent Baptist
Holland MI
Puritanboard Postgraduate
Ah, that's the spirit!
Andrew Thornquist
Calvinistic Baptist
Ukiah, California
Meum cerebrum nocet
Josh, is that your penultimate word on the topic?My current eschatalogical position is somewhere before the end.
Dennis E. McFadden, Ex Mainline Baptist (in Remission)
Atherton Baptist Homes, CEO
First Baptist Church of Alhambra, Member, Transformation Ministries (CA)
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LawrenceU (05-07-2009)
Puritanboard Senior
Call me an Acts 1:11er
Rich Koster
Browns Mills NJ USA
Member of Covenant Baptist, Lumberton NJ (1689ers)
http://cbclumberton.wordpress.com/
The Often Goofy Reformed Eccentric
Romans 7:14-25
Puritanboard Freshman
Ah, that's the spirit!
Aaron
Independent Baptist
Holland MI
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