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View Poll Results: What's your eschatological position?
PreTrib-Premillennial 5 2.23%
Amillennial 106 47.32%
Historic Pre-millennial 17 7.59%
Postmillennial 36 16.07%
I’m just waiting for the Rapture… 4 1.79%
Still working out the differences... 37 16.52%
Optimistic Amillennial 32 14.29%
Nicolae Carpathia is Alive! 6 2.68%
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:55 PM
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What's your Eschatological Position??

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tentatively a partial-preterist amil
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Has it been 8 months? Seems like only yesterday.
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I grew up Premill-Dispy (though I had no idea what the term meant). I then went to Amill and now (the more I listen to my Bahnsen mp3's) I am walking a tight rope between Amill and Postmill. Dispy to me = a vague and impossible memory. Postmill = a definite probability.
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My option wasn't posted- Historical Optimistic Amillennial (Historic as opposed to Futuristic, Preterist, etc...)

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unfortunately many of my Baptist brethren are still PreTrib-Premillennial and defend it like their life depended on it. I suspect like me they were all taught this growing up in the 60's, 70's and 80's in the days of rampant dispensationalism.
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Ooh! That's harsh.
I know...but he set it up sooo nicely.
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If I had two books to read on the subject I would read Clouses four views book and
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by President of Mid-America Reformed Seminary Cornelis P. Venema. I would also recommend a reading of
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by William Symington even though it doesn't discuss eschatology in the way you are looking for but it does lay a foundation that many don't have concerning Christ and His Government of this world.

Dr. Venema discusses the history behind the doctrinal understandings that most books do not discuss. Post Mil and A mil are really classified as the same until recently, even though they differ in modern day terms of the Kingdom and it's relationship here on earth.
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I have no idea what you're talking about.

Well, okay, I have SOME idea. But not enough to know which is which. That's my next planned area of study after I finish my current one.
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hmm, i guess i can't harmonize total depravity and 1,000 years of okey dokieness together...
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C'mon now this is something that needs polled about every 6 months...

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I highly recommend Venema's book. It is one of the few A-Mill books that gives a fair shake to Post-Millennial eschatology. For the interested I think the best Post-Mill book out right now is Keith Mathison's Postmillenialism: An Eschatology of Hope. I also hope (no pun intended) to pick this book up soon, also by Keith Mathison called From Age to Age: The Unfolding of Biblical Eschatology.

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Also a discussion of Eschatology cannot go without mentioning the creme de la creme of eschatology books. Iain Murray's The Puritan Hope.
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I would have to say that I am sort of a partial-preterist/Amil. I believe most of the prophecy in the NT pertained to the first century audience and Revelation was probably written prior to the destruction of the Temple. I also believe that all of the "Lion with lamb" verses pertain to the time when creation has been restored back to its original glory, after the resurrection.
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Having read each and EVERY one of the Left Behind books as a NON pre-tribber, I'm either a glutton for punishment or terribly confused. After decades in the historic premill camp (Gundry was my college prof for 32 units and Ladd was my prof in seminary), Riddlebarger's wonderful book won me over to the amil side pretty decisively.
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I confess - I haven't sat down with this one lately as I was working out all my other kinks. However, a few years ago and with the help of my husband and the PB, I did pull away from my dispy position and into a historic premil one. I'm riding the fence of postmil while my husband seems to be between postmil and amil.
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I used to be completely and absolutely convinced of amil eschatology... but with all the stuff going on in the world: talk of a world currency, the rise of The One.... man, I'm beginning to wonder if it is at least a little bit possible that Nicolae Carpathia is alive!
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I have taken to reading my Bible with newspaper in hand. Wait, I don't get a newspaper. I have no hope of being able to tell what is happening. I have no chance of properly interpreting Scripture.

Man, I'm glad I was never a dispensationalist.
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I used to be completely and absolutely convinced of amil eschatology... but with all the stuff going on in the world: talk of a world currency, the rise of The One.... man, I'm beginning to wonder if it is at least a little bit possible that Nicolae Carpathia is alive!
Just in case anyone was getting worried... I was kidding.
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Amill. I think the problem of evil following the second coming of Jesus is a seriously good argument against the premil positions.
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I favoured Postmillinalism but now I would say I am an glassi s half empty cracked and leaking Amilinialist.
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I favoured Postmillinalism but now I would say I am an glassi s half empty cracked and leaking Amilinialist.
Ah, that's the spirit!
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