What events will take place prior to and upon the return of Christ?

Jon 316 · #1 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 04:40 PM

Just a short easy question this time

Roldan · #2 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon 316

Just a short easy question this time

Not really lol.....You'lle see

***Joshua*** · #3 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 05:35 PM

Yes. Events will happen.

Hope that helps.

Jon 316 · #4 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua

Yes. Events will happen.

Hope that helps.

thanks, you truly are the chief of reformed gurus

OPC'n · #5 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 05:42 PM

Nothing that isn't happening already. There's no special activity that will occur which will alert us to His second coming. He said that the days would be as in the days of Noah....they were very wicked like us and they were eating and marrying and living life like us and like the world has been doing since the days of Noah. Him coming as a thief in the night means there is nothing to alert us that His time is near.

Knoxienne · #6 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sjonee

Nothing that isn't happening already. There's no special activity that will occur which will alert us to His second coming. He said that the days would be as in the days of Noah....they were very wicked like us and they were eating and marrying and living life like us and like the world has been doing since the days of Noah. Him coming as a thief in the night means there is nothing to alert us that His time is near.

OPC'n · #7 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 05:49 PM

Cool pic, btw!

Jon 316 · #8 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sjonee

Cool pic, btw!

cheers. you too... it seems the blurry postmodern type pic is 'in'

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Originally Posted by Knoxienne

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Originally Posted by sjonee

Nothing that isn't happening already. There's no special activity that will occur which will alert us to His second coming. He said that the days would be as in the days of Noah....they were very wicked like us and they were eating and marrying and living life like us and like the world has been doing since the days of Noah. Him coming as a thief in the night means there is nothing to alert us that His time is near.

well I can see that this is going to be a whole lot of fun

I'm away to find a dispensationalist forum, I'm sure that will be much more entertaining...

OPC'n · #9 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 06:00 PM

How did you get all those different colors? Do you have photoshop? I'm really thinking about getting it. Someone lead me to a site which gives a similar soft wear away for free, but I couldn't figure out what I needed to download from that site, so I think it's going to be Photoshop for me.

Jon 316 · #10 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sjonee

How did you get all those different colors? Do you have photoshop? I'm really thinking about getting it. Someone lead me to a site which gives a similar soft wear away for free, but I couldn't figure out what I needed to download from that site, so I think it's going to be Photoshop for me.

It was taken on a friends web camera which had some sort of function which had various special effects. This was one of them. Sorry I cant be more help.

**DMcFadden** · #11 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 06:05 PM

Pilot Rayford Steele, has been called in for a flight from Chicago to London. During the flight some passengers awaken to realize that several of their fellow passengers are missing. Panic sets in as Steele and his crew try to contain this situation. Upon returning to the flight cockpit, they discover that Christians are mysteriously disappearing worldwide. He is forced to turn the plane back to Chicago.

As people scramble for answers, a Romanian politician named Nicolae Jetty Carpathia rises to become secretary-general of the United Nations, promising to restore peace and stability to all nations. What most of the world does not realize is that Carpathia is actually the Antichrist foretold from the Bible. Coming to grips with the truth and becoming born-again Christians, Rayford Steele, his daughter Chloe, their pastor Bruce Barnes, and young journalist Cameron "Buck" Williams begin their quest as the Tribulation Force to help save the lost and prepare for the coming Tribulation, in which God will rain down judgment on the world for seven years.

Never mind. I forgot which forum this was.

Why don't you try reading Dr. Kim Riddlebarger's The Man of Sin or A Case for Amillennialism instead. He does a GREAT job with the topic.

OPC'n · #12 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 06:05 PM

Oh, my mac does the same thing!!! I forgot about that! Maybe I will have to copy you sometime! Sorry for hijacking your thread...I'll stop now!

Jon 316 · #13 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DMcFadden

Pilot Rayford Steele, has been called in for a flight from Chicago to London. During the flight some passengers awaken to realize that several of their fellow passengers are missing. Panic sets in as Steele and his crew try to contain this situation. Upon returning to the flight cockpit, they discover that Christians are mysteriously disappearing worldwide. He is forced to turn the plane back to Chicago.

As people scramble for answers, a Romanian politician named Nicolae Jetty Carpathia rises to become secretary-general of the United Nations, promising to restore peace and stability to all nations. What most of the world does not realize is that Carpathia is actually the Antichrist foretold from the Bible. Coming to grips with the truth and becoming born-again Christians, Rayford Steele, his daughter Chloe, their pastor Bruce Barnes, and young journalist Cameron "Buck" Williams begin their quest as the Tribulation Force to help save the lost and prepare for the coming Tribulation, in which God will rain down judgment on the world for seven years.

Never mind. I forgot which forum this was.

Why don't you try reading Dr. Kim Riddlebarger's The Man of Sin or A Case for Amillennialism instead. He does a GREAT job with the topic.

Man, you reformed guys are too straight forward

No Longer A Libertine · #14 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 06:09 PM

Business as usual right up to the last days, i suspect the world might even appear deceptively prosperous and think its got things all figured out when BAM! Here comes the True Messiah, and he won't be elected to serve in the White House.

Anton Bruckner · #15 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 06:14 PM

The Epistemological Self Conscious as Van Til called it. Being a Optimistic Post Millenialist I believe that the Gospel will spread throughout the world and bring in general peace and prosperity. I believe the wicked will rebel against this great testimony and then the end will come as per Revelation 21 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone,

I believe we are in the millennium, and that the gospel will advance. The very act of the gospel's advancement coincides with the binding of Satan. The rebellion at the end of the age occurs when Satan is released which will coincide with an emboldening of evil which does not mean a contraction of the Gospel. This is the epistemological self conscious; Emboldening evil alongside emboldening righteousness, the wheat and the tares.

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Originally Posted by No Longer A Libertine

Business as usual right up to the last days, i suspect the world might even appear deceptively prosperous and think its got things all figured out when BAM! Here comes the True Messiah, and he won't be elected to serve in the White House.

you want the feminists to throw a tantrum

MrMerlin777 · #16 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua

Yes. Events will happen.

Hope that helps.

Thanks for the chuckle Josh...

Jon 316 · #17 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Anton Bruckner

The Epistemological Self Conscious as Van Til called it. Being a Optimistic Post Millenialist I believe that the Gospel will spread throughout the world and bring in general peace and prosperity. I believe the wicked will rebel against this great testimony and then the end will come as per Revelation 21 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone,

I believe we are in the millennium, and that the gospel will advance. The very act of the gospel's advancement coincides with the binding of Satan. The rebellion at the end of the age occurs when Satan is released which will coincide with an emboldening of evil which does not mean a contraction of the Gospel. This is the epistemological self conscious; Emboldening evil alongside emboldening righteousness, the wheat and the tares.

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Originally Posted by No Longer A Libertine

Business as usual right up to the last days, i suspect the world might even appear deceptively prosperous and think its got things all figured out when BAM! Here comes the True Messiah, and he won't be elected to serve in the White House.

you want the feminists to throw a tantrum

Finally, some content.

1. So how does that tie in with the idea that the world will become increasingly wicked prior to Christs return?

2. By saying we are in the milenium, are you saying that this is the thousand year reign of Christ now? (I.E in 'spiritual' sense?

Roldan · #18 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon 316

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Originally Posted by Anton Bruckner

The Epistemological Self Conscious as Van Til called it. Being a Optimistic Post Millenialist I believe that the Gospel will spread throughout the world and bring in general peace and prosperity. I believe the wicked will rebel against this great testimony and then the end will come as per Revelation 21 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone,

I believe we are in the millennium, and that the gospel will advance. The very act of the gospel's advancement coincides with the binding of Satan. The rebellion at the end of the age occurs when Satan is released which will coincide with an emboldening of evil which does not mean a contraction of the Gospel. This is the epistemological self conscious; Emboldening evil alongside emboldening righteousness, the wheat and the tares.

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Originally Posted by No Longer A Libertine

Business as usual right up to the last days, i suspect the world might even appear deceptively prosperous and think its got things all figured out when BAM! Here comes the True Messiah, and he won't be elected to serve in the White House.

you want the feminists to throw a tantrum

Finally, some content.

1. So how does that tie in with the idea that the world will become increasingly wicked prior to Christs return?

2. By saying we are in the milenium, are you saying that this is the thousand year reign of Christ now? (I.E in 'spiritual' sense?

Told you

Rich Koster · #19 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 07:34 PM

[QUOTE=DMcFadden;562408]Pilot Rayford Steele, has been called in for a flight from Chicago to London. During the flight some passengers awaken to realize that several of their fellow passengers are missing. Panic sets in as Steele and his crew try to contain this situation. Upon returning to the flight cockpit, they discover that Christians are mysteriously disappearing worldwide. He is forced to turn the plane back to Chicago.

As people scramble for answers, a Romanian politician named Nicolae Jetty Carpathia rises to become secretary-general of the United Nations, promising to restore peace and stability to all nations. What most of the world does not realize is that Carpathia is actually the Antichrist foretold from the Bible. Coming to grips with the truth and becoming born-again Christians, Rayford Steele, his daughter Chloe, their pastor Bruce Barnes, and young journalist Cameron "Buck" Williams begin their quest as the Tribulation Force to help save the lost and prepare for the coming Tribulation, in which God will rain down judgment on the world for seven years.

Ahhhhh such fine stuff from the Left Beguiled series. I'll keep this on my freezer for when I get ice cream urges

MrMerlin777 · #20 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon 316

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Originally Posted by Anton Bruckner

The Epistemological Self Conscious as Van Til called it. Being a Optimistic Post Millenialist I believe that the Gospel will spread throughout the world and bring in general peace and prosperity. I believe the wicked will rebel against this great testimony and then the end will come as per Revelation 21 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone,

I believe we are in the millennium, and that the gospel will advance. The very act of the gospel's advancement coincides with the binding of Satan. The rebellion at the end of the age occurs when Satan is released which will coincide with an emboldening of evil which does not mean a contraction of the Gospel. This is the epistemological self conscious; Emboldening evil alongside emboldening righteousness, the wheat and the tares.

-----Added 3/4/2009 at 06:14:22 EST-----

Quote:

Originally Posted by No Longer A Libertine

Business as usual right up to the last days, i suspect the world might even appear deceptively prosperous and think its got things all figured out when BAM! Here comes the True Messiah, and he won't be elected to serve in the White House.

you want the feminists to throw a tantrum

Finally, some content.

1. So how does that tie in with the idea that the world will become increasingly wicked prior to Christs return?

2. By saying we are in the milenium, are you saying that this is the thousand year reign of Christ now? (I.E in 'spiritual' sense?

First off the thousand years is most likely not a litteral thousand year period of time, and yes we are saying that Christ is reigning now from heaven and that the age of the gospel going forth what some call "the gospel age" is the millenium. Some call Amillenialism - Gospel Millenialism, or Realized Millenialism. Some schools of post millenialism would also say the gospel age is the millenium.

Re4mdant · #21 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 09:12 PM

I know, I know (

) Some PB member will start a thread on it, Ooohh wait... nevermind

Anton Bruckner · #22 (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon 316

Finally, some content.

1. So how does that tie in with the idea that the world will become increasingly wicked prior to Christs return?

2. By saying we are in the milenium, are you saying that this is the thousand year reign of Christ now? (I.E in 'spiritual' sense?

I don't believe the world will become increasingly wicked prior to Christ's return. I actually believe the world will become increasingly better as Christians under the direction of the Holy Spirit become more sanctified and knowledgeable of truth.

Yes I believe the Millennium is present. I believe the millennium started when Jesus came. Demons were cast out and the Roman Empire crumbled. In every land the Gospel has been preached and in every land there are worshippers of Christ. I believe this will increase exponentially as Christians come into true knowledge of doctrine and get rid of the excesses of humanism and antinomianism.