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02-06-2008, 11:54 AM
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Was Revelation written before 70 AD or after?
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At least twenty years after, which throws cold water on the book being used to support the preterist view.
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For theological reasons I say before. Why? Because the writings of the New Covenant had to be completed before the Old Covenant worship was finally and publicly abolished in 70 AD signifying the end of the period of transition between the two testaments.
Does this prove a preterist interpretation of Revelation is correct? Not necessarily.
However, you may find it useful to consult Ken Gentry's Before Jerusalem Fell.
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Originally Posted by BaptistInCrisis At least twenty years after, which throws cold water on the book being used to support the preterist view. | The coals are still burning. If the preterist wanted to modify his view to the near future he could still do it regardless of the dating of revelation. There are time-referents in the book that still support the preterist view. I am not preterist, but I have to be honest on that one.
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Originally Posted by Ivanhoe Quote:
Originally Posted by BaptistInCrisis At least twenty years after, which throws cold water on the book being used to support the preterist view. | The coals are still burning. If the preterist wanted to modify his view to the near future he could still do it regardless of the dating of revelation. There are time-referents in the book that still support the preterist view. I am not preterist, but I have to be honest on that one. | Jacob, and this is precisely why I have such a problem with preterism. It's such a moving target.
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I say after.
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Internal and external evidences point to a pre AD 70 date.
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Just curious, has Adams' work "The Time is at Hand" ever been refuted by anybody notable?
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Other: it was written and published serially from summer 68 to spring 71.
Just kidding. It was written well after 70 AD.
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would other classify as "during 70" since the other two options are before and after?
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Originally Posted by Bygracealone Just curious, has Adams' work "The Time is at Hand" ever been refuted by anybody notable? | Who is Adam?
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Originally Posted by Ivanhoe Jay Adams | who is jay adams?
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Originally Posted by Ivanhoe Jay Adams | who is jay adams? | He is an amillennialist who spear-headed the "nouthetic counseling" movement. Overall, he is quite good. Has done some excellent work on the Christian family. Essentially argues that we should look to the Bible, and not to Dr Phil, for dealing with crises.
He doesn't do a lot on biblical studies. He did one on charismatic gifts and another on baptism and another on prophecy.
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Originally Posted by BaptistInCrisis At least twenty years after, which throws cold water on the book being used to support the preterist view. | How so? Preterists can interpret it as being about Jerusalem, Rome or both. I think it was written late, and is written to churches in Rome who were persectued by Rome, and it speaks of Rome being destroyed. And I consider myself a preterist which means I think those things already happened. (And the book speaks of some things after Rome as well.)
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Originally Posted by Ivanhoe Quote:
Originally Posted by BaptistInCrisis At least twenty years after, which throws cold water on the book being used to support the preterist view. | The coals are still burning. If the preterist wanted to modify his view to the near future he could still do it regardless of the dating of revelation. There are time-referents in the book that still support the preterist view. I am not preterist, but I have to be honest on that one. | Are you saying an early date for Revelation is not necessary for the preterist view?
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Originally Posted by Ivanhoe Jay Adams | who is jay adams? | I mentioned him because he wrote what some deem a classic work on the early dating of the Book of the Revelation entitled "The Time is at Hand."
It can be purchased here: Welcome to Timeless Christian Boooks | 
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Before, while the temple was still standing (Rev. 11:1-8) and during the reign of Nero, the 6th Roman Emperor (Rev. 17:10)
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Agree with ^ Before
Better scholarship and the text seems to support a before date, IMHO.
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I chose "other" because I have no idea.
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Originally Posted by Ivanhoe Quote:
Originally Posted by BaptistInCrisis At least twenty years after, which throws cold water on the book being used to support the preterist view. | The coals are still burning. If the preterist wanted to modify his view to the near future he could still do it regardless of the dating of revelation. There are time-referents in the book that still support the preterist view. I am not preterist, but I have to be honest on that one. | Are you saying an early date for Revelation is not necessary for the preterist view? | | |