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Revelation: Commentaries, theologies, et al

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I am working through Revelation and want to get "me hands" on all the literature available - of course after the exegesis is completed...or in the process thereof. Suggestions for either commentaries or theologies...or single articles....NOTE: I am not interested in discussing interpretations at this point.

I have been in the process for a couple of months now, but want to be sure I leave no stone uncovered - all flavors welcome except dispensationalism, most of this material simply recaptiulates others, with different dust jackets.

The more technical the better - church history; literary, post-colonial, etc.


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George Ladd is a good starter, although he is not as deep as I might want him to be. The commentary on Revelation in The New Interepreter's Bible Commentary (volume 12) is eccentric, if at times thoughtful.
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Denver Seminary maintains one of the best commentary recommendations list, and the most up-to-date.
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Triumph of the Lamb: A Commentary on Revelation by Dennis Johnson

More Than Conquerors: An Interpretation of the Book of Revelation by William Hendriksen

The Returning King: A Guide to the Book of Revelation by Vern S. Poythress

Revelation (NICNT) by Robert H. Mounce
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I'm sure that you've already picked up Beale's volume in the NIGTC series. It has pretty much become the standard in that field, and includes a comprehensive bibliography for the literature up to 1999.

You might also be interested in his work in the New Studies in Biblical Theology entitled The Temple and the Church's Mission: a biblical theology of the dwelling place of God. It is a thematic survey of temple imagery and purpose throughout the whole of Scripture, but chapters 10 and 12 focus upon this imagery as found in the book of Revelation.

Also, Cambridge University Press published a work by Richard Bauckham in their New Testament Theology series entitled The Theology of the Book of Revelation, which you might find to be of help.
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Here's another good one, John (available online): Behold He Cometh, by Rev. Herman Hoeksema:

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Stephen S. Smalley has a new commentary on Revelation. I paged through it briefly. He says that John the Apostle was the author. He believes that Revelation was written just before the fall of Jerusalem in AD 70. And - as with all commentaries on Revelation - I flipped through to see what he has to say about Revelation 20. Alas, he takes the amil view, with the "thousand years" being figurative and symbolic. Oh, well. Nobody's perfect!

It looks like a pretty good commentary, though.
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It seems that every subsequent commentator at one point or another has to refer to Charles' work on Revelation in the ICC.
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Friends:

I am working through Revelation and want to get "me hands" on all the literature available - of course after the exegesis is completed...or in the process thereof. Suggestions for either commentaries or theologies...or single articles....NOTE: I am not interested in discussing interpretations at this point.

I have been in the process for a couple of months now, but want to be sure I leave no stone uncovered - all flavors welcome except dispensationalism, most of this material simply recaptiulates others, with different dust jackets.

The more technical the better - church history; literary, post-colonial, etc.


Thanks in advance


Sydnorphyn

Hey:

Beal's commentary on Revelation is one of the most important:

Amazon.com: The Book of Revelation: A Commentary...Amazon.com: The Book of Revelation: A Commentary...
Grant Osborne"s is also an important one:

Amazon.com: Revelation (Baker Exegetical...Amazon.com: Revelation (Baker Exegetical...
And Barnes' Notes on Revelation is also good:

Amazon.com: Notes on the New Testament:...Amazon.com: Notes on the New Testament:...
The Lord bless you in your studies,

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Just wait a couple of months until Kenneth Gentry's Revelation commentary comes out... I am assured the commentary will be promising. Gentry, in my opinion, is one of the best communicators out there on Revelation
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Just wait a couple of months until Kenneth Gentry's Revelation commentary comes out... I am assured the commentary will be promising. Gentry, in my opinion, is one of the best communicators out there on Revelation
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Gentry is a preterist with an axe to grind. His commentary is useful only if you are looking for one with a severe bias.

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Gentry is a preterist with an axe to grind. His commentary is useful only if you are looking for one with a severe bias.
...not to mention that he's a strong theonomist.
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Just wait a couple of months until Kenneth Gentry's Revelation commentary comes out... I am assured the commentary will be promising. Gentry, in my opinion, is one of the best communicators out there on Revelation
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Gentry is a preterist with an axe to grind. His commentary is useful only if you are looking for one with a severe bias.

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Calvin and Hodges,
What makes you think Gentry is a theological pounder instead of an exegetical observer (meaning allowing ones theology to inform an exegesis)? And I would also further the discussion, how is it possible to come to ANYTHING without a "severe bias?"
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Gentry is a preterist with an axe to grind. His commentary is useful only if you are looking for one with a severe bias.
...not to mention that he's a strong theonomist.
How would you define a "strong theonomist?"
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How would you define a "strong theonomist?"
Gentry is strongly committed to theonomy.
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Just wait a couple of months until Kenneth Gentry's Revelation commentary comes out... I am assured the commentary will be promising. Gentry, in my opinion, is one of the best communicators out there on Revelation
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Gentry is a preterist with an axe to grind. His commentary is useful only if you are looking for one with a severe bias.

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Calvin and Hodges,
What makes you think Gentry is a theological pounder instead of an exegetical observer (meaning allowing ones theology to inform an exegesis)? And I would also further the discussion, how is it possible to come to ANYTHING without a "severe bias?"
Ditto, it is sort of like thinking, anyone who disagrees with us has a severe bias.
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Does Osborne's Arminianism come out in that commentary? I wouldn't touch his Romans commentary with a 6.5-cubit pole, and it's hard to imagine that it doesn't flavor his work in Revelation.
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...not to mention that he's a strong theonomist.
Is a positive or negative comment? Just wondering....
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Regardless of his Arminianism, you sortof haveta consult such a massive and up-to-date commentary as the Baker Exegetical Commentary! Beale, Ladd, Kistemaker/Hendriksen, Keener, Michaels, Mounce, Wilcock, and Aune would be among my first choices for modern authors. Gregg's "Revelation: Four Views" is great if for nothing else than than ease of comparison of various schools of thought. Others in this thread have offered suggestions for Puritans and Reformers.
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