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Revelation 11 for futurists

Full Preterists, please don't answer. For those who are futurists, do you understand the two witnesses as being literal human beings who literally do what it says they will do? Or are these two symbolic of something else; if so, what?
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Given that full preterism is heresy, and contra-confessional, you shouldn't probably expect any responses from them.

Do you mean also to exclude partial preterists, and only get responses here from historic pre-millenial folk? (or are you really asking for hard-core futurists only - i.e. pre-trib dispensational pre-millenials, of which there are probably none, either?)
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Hello Mary,

A fairly recent thread discussed just this: Who are the two witnesses in Revelation?

For almost 40 years I held to the understanding they were two actual people, collecting books on the topic, and pondering it. But now I see them as figurative of the prophetic ministries of the church. I would recommend William Hendriksen's commentary as the simplest and clearest exposition.

Hardback: More Than Conquerors: William Hendriksen: BooksMore Than Conquerors: William Hendriksen: Books

Paperback: More Than Conquerors: An Interpretation of the Book of Revelation, Commemorative Edition - By: William Hendriksen - Christianbook.com
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The language can be exasperating Mary. Preterists don't like being called partial preterists because we are not partial, we are preterists. We usually will throw in 'orthodox preterists' to remind folks we're not unorthodox. 'Full preterism' is usually the term used for those who believe that the resurrection of the dead and final coming of Jesus has happened. We don't like THAT term either, we prefer 'Neo-Hymenæanism'. Some call the unorthodox version 'hyper-preterism' which is misleading in the same way 'hyper-calvinism' is, it's not preterism.

So don't feel bad if you meant orthodox preterism.
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O.K. The terminology confuses me. I meant to elicit comments from those who believe that the prophecies of the book are still future to us, however one may label them. Thanks for the link to the previous thread. I'll check that out.
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