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Postmillennialists who hold to a literal millennium?
I need a list of postmillennialists who hold to a literal 1,000 year millennium. I also need a list of postmillennialists that hold to a figurative millennium (like amillennialists).
I'll start the lists:
Figurative
Boettner
Warfield
Edwards
Literal
???
???
???
Thanks!
Chris M.
Presbyterian Reformed Church of Charlotte (PRC)
Student, Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminary
SC
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Hodge is aloof:
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Aaron Josh Wright
Deerbrook Baptist Church, Humble Tx
New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
CDM (05-13-2009)
Puritanboard Graduate
I think I'm figurative.
Toni Cunningham, Wife of Bill (Theognome)
Parkwoods OPC, Overland Park KS
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I would addOriginally Posted by CDM
Kenneth Gentry
Greg Bahnsen
Keith Mathison
Kenneth Talbot (President of Whitefield Seminary)
Jerry Johnson (Nicene Council.com)
I am not aware of any literal Postmil, because none in the Postmil camp have dated that exact 1000 years that would have passed according to this viewpoint. I am still looking at Scripture and reading and cogitating myself.
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Carol
Plant City, Florida
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CDM (05-13-2009)
Puritanboard Senior
Bahnsen sees the millennium as encompassing the entire interadventual age, and given the way he states his position in his Victory in Jesus book on postmillennialism, it sounds as if that position is historically more prevalent.
If it is in fact more prevalent, and considering that more than 1000 years have passed since the first advent, then the pool of possible postmils who hold to a literal millennium would be quite small.
In fact, it seems almost a guarantee that a literal 1000-year postmillennialist would be in the vast minority.
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Knoxienne (05-13-2009)
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I think that you might find postmils from e.g. the Seventeenth Century, Eighteenth Century and even later holding to a literal thousand year scheme.
There's no need to change one's literal postmil position if one is living after AD 1000, because if you were a literal postmil, I assume you might not believe that the thousand years commenced until there were signs of Christian world ascendency e.g. the conversion of the Jews, the conversion of the nations with their governments, the fall of Romanism and false religion.
The more modern postmils have wisely incorporated the best of amil exegetical insights into their scheme. Amil is postmil in orientation, anyway, without the Golden Age of postmil (and biblical prophecy) - whether that's held to be 1,000 years or longer.
Richard
communicant member, FCoS
Perth, Scotland UK
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last like the sun it shall:
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Grandma (05-16-2009)
Puritanboard Freshman
I somehow recall that Edwards in his History of Redemption held to a literal 1000 years, and even thought that Peter the Great was going to help get things started. But it has been a while, so I could be wrong on that.
Randy Harris
Heritage PCA Church
Oklahoma City, OK
Puritanboard Freshman
No, he said it is a very long period of time.
Yigang Xu
Husband of Yele, Father of Anna (07/17/08)
Westminster Presbyterian Church, Free Church of Scotland (Continuing)
Bethesda, Maryland
"Thou crownest the year with thy goodness; and thy paths drop fatness. They drop upon the pastures of the wilderness: and the little hills rejoice on every side." Psalm 65:10,11
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I do not think anyone ever thought it would be only 1,000 years. As no ones thinks that God only owns the cattle on ONLY 1,000 hills.
Alan Hughes
PCA
Lake Zurich, Illinois
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Knoxienne (05-28-2009)
Puritanboard Freshman
I am a fugurative thinker on the postmil side. I don't really think that I know anyone in history that was a literal postmil thousand year thinker.
Knoxienne (05-28-2009)
Puritanboard Junior
But there must be some because Bahnsen mentions it. I've never heard him (on MP3) mention any names but he does mention that there are those who believed in a literal 1000 years,
Kevin - PCA - Mississippi
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Did Bahnsen specify that these people were postmillenialists? A literal belief sounds more dispensational to me.But there must be some because Bahnsen mentions it. I've never heard him (on MP3) mention any names but he does mention that there are those who believed in a literal 1000 years,
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Belle Center Reformed Presbyterian Church (RPCNA), Belle Center, OH
When at home, attending Covenant Presbyterian Church (OPC), Mansfield, OH
“Prayer is as natural an expression of faith as breathing is of life.”
-Jonathan Edwards-
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Yes, he did specify that they were postmillenialists. I was surprized myself.Did Bahnsen specify that these people were postmillenialists? A literal belief sounds more dispensational to me.But there must be some because Bahnsen mentions it. I've never heard him (on MP3) mention any names but he does mention that there are those who believed in a literal 1000 years,
-----Added 5/27/2009 at 11:26:35 EST-----
I think I heard that from one of these Ben. MP3 - Bahnsen - Why Am I a Postmillennialist?
Kevin - PCA - Mississippi
"What, for some, is sin, others do to the glory of God. And the good Dr. Pentecost's remarks notwithstanding, I intend to go home tonight and smoke a cigar to the glory of God. It is a kind of incense drifting to Heaven." - Charles Spurgeon
"Thanks be to God for His indescribable gift!" - 2 Corinthians 9:15
Confessor (05-27-2009)
Puritanboard Freshman
Technically Augustine (he held all three major positions, at different times in his life) as he thought that Christ would return literally one thousand years after his ascension.
Joshua
Student, Summer Intern
Fellowship Baptist
Ontario, Canada
Puritanboard Junior
It was Dr. Smith, of GPTS, one of my professors, who told me / us about the literal postmillers. I'm trying to find sources.
Chris M.
Presbyterian Reformed Church of Charlotte (PRC)
Student, Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminary
SC
...hope is nothing but the nourishment and strength of faith.
~ Calvin's Institutes III.ii.43
Puritanboard Sophomore
Our pastor at least leans toward a literal thousand years.
Johnathan Tate
Cornerstone Presbyterian Church (OPC), Arden, NC
Husband of one, father of 3 (1 in-utero); Time's "Man of the Year" 2006
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