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View Poll Results: Is Paul referring to himself in Romans 7 as a Believer of Unbeliever? | |
Romans 7 refers to a believer.
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Romans 7 refers to an unbeliever.
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01-29-2008, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Neogillist If you consider that in Romans 7 Paul is speaking of someone prior to becoming a believer, then you have adopted the position that James Arminius would take on the subject. Indeed, I think all the Calvinists of the Reformation considered Romans 7 to be referring to the believer, and James/Jacob Arminius adopted the alternative interpretation. It surprises me that Loyd Jones also adopts the Arminian interpretation. It is probably due to his Methodism surfacing; I'll have to say that if you desire to be on the "safe side" of the interpretation of Romans 7, then you can trust that it refers to the believer; besides all the smartest Reformed theologians would take that position. | I agree with you that it describes the believer. However, Reymond is a pretty smart guy. So are J. A Bengel, H. A. W. Meyer, F. Godet, M. Stuart, W. Sanday and A. C. Headlam, J. Denney, J. Oliver Buswell Jr., A. Hoekema, M. Lloyd-Jones. Ridderbos, while not seeing it as autobiographical also denies that it describes the Christian struggle with sin.
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Originally Posted by greenbaggins I highly recommend Cranfield's commentary on this passage. He lays out all the arguments for each position, takes the view that Paul is talking about a believer, and answers all the objections. Extremely clear (though a bit technical). Good to see Richard quoting him. | Cranfield's entire discussion can be found in 1:340-370. He spends no fewer than 30 pages (out of the total of 444 pages of text in volume 1) on this issue (and immediately contextual issues). He is nothing if not thorough.
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