The PuritanBoard  

Go Back   The PuritanBoard > The Scriptures > NT Epistles

NT Epistles Discussion of texts from Romans - Jude
Grace be with all those who love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerety. (Eph. 6:23)

Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God.

» Online Users: 51
3 members and 48 guests
Amazing Grace, nicnap, Ruby
Most users ever online was 856, 07-06-2007 at 12:19 AM.
Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 02-27-2009, 06:00 PM
Puritanboard Sophomore
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Vallejo, CA
Posts: 891
Thanks: 60
Thanked 120 Times in 90 Posts
1 Peter 3:18-21

1 Peter 3:18-21 says, "For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit; in which also He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison, who once were disobedient, when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through the water. Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you--not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience--through the resurrection of Jesus Christ"

When Peter says, "Baptism now saves you...", the phrase, "not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience", explains what that means. Could anyone explain what is meant by the phrase, "not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience"?
__________________
Curt Hayashida
member, Community Bible Church (Non-denominational)
Vallejo, CA
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 02-27-2009, 09:15 PM
Ivan's Avatar
Pastor
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Beloit, Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 10,161
Thanks: 1,467
Thanked 1,422 Times in 1,062 Posts
*bump*
__________________
Ivan R. Schoen, B.A., M.A., M.L.I.S.
Pastor of Maranatha Baptist Church (SBC)
Poplar Grove, IL, USA

http://maranatha-sbc.org
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 02-27-2009, 09:49 PM
Michael Turner's Avatar
Puritanboard Junior
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Atlanta Metro
Posts: 1,027
Thanks: 244
Thanked 257 Times in 163 Posts
Perhaps there is more to this question but...

Baptism is a symbol of the greater reality of the washing away of one's sin. The water does not save us by cleansing our flesh. It is representative of the Holy Spirit saving us through the finished work of Christ and making our scarlet sins as white as snow. And of course it is indeed the answer of a good conscience before God, a conscience set apart from that which lies outside his covenant.
__________________
Michael Turner
Christ Reformed Church | Independent [WCF]
Georgia

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
The Following User Says Thank You to Michael Turner For This Useful Post:
cih1355 (02-28-2009)
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 02-28-2009, 12:20 AM
A.J.'s Avatar
Puritanboard Junior
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Taytay, Rizal Province, The Philippines
Posts: 1,582
Thanks: 752
Thanked 457 Times in 305 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by cih1355 View Post
1 Peter 3:18-21 says, "For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit; in which also He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison, who once were disobedient, when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through the water. Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you--not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience--through the resurrection of Jesus Christ"

When Peter says, "Baptism now saves you...", the phrase, "not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience", explains what that means. Could anyone explain what is meant by the phrase, "not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience"?
Good question. This is a text which many people (of false religions) have misinterpreted to the destruction of their souls. The most recent exegesis of the text I have read is found in J. Ligon Duncan's The Abrahamic Covenant - Covenant Signs and Implications. He discusses the text near the end of this (transcribed) sermon.

Duncan argues that 1 Peter 3:18-21 simply reiterates the language of Gen. 17 about circumcision. In the text, Peter uses that language and applies it to baptism. It is therefore necessary to know the nature of circumcision as a covenant sign, and the reality of the union between the sign and the thing it signifies (i.e., sacramental union) before one can properly interpret this difficult text which speaks of what baptism does. I highly recommend reading the entire sermon for a more detailed explanation.
__________________
Albert, The Republic of the Philippines
Pasig United Covenant Reformed Church (a Reformed church plant)
United Covenant Reformed Churches in the Philippines (UCRCP)
Three Forms of Unity and Westminster Confession of Faith

Psalm 27:1a (AV) The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear?
“Perseverance is the badge of true saints. The Christian life is not a beginning only in the ways of God, but also a continuance in the same as long as life lasts.” -
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
The Following User Says Thank You to A.J. For This Useful Post:
cih1355 (02-28-2009)
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:30 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2 ©2009, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2002-2008 PuritanBoard.com
Hosted by WebsiteMaven - helping ministries with web hosting advice, reviews, and design.
67 Westminster Abbey © Confessional Presbyterian Presses - used with permission.
Add Our Custom Button to your Google Toolbar

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69