Yes, I think our Lord spoke as He did because He was quoting Ps. 22.
This v. is often mistaken, I fear, to mean something like an essential disruption of the ontological Trinity. Such is not possible, of course, and attributes to sin more disruptive force than it has (sin does not disturb the essential unity of God; if so, it would be greater than God, a manifest blasphemy). Rather, the verse indicates that the wrath of the Father, which burns hot against us because of sin, was directed toward Christ as our sin-bearer, the one who had been constituted judicially guilty on our behalf so that he might atone for our sin and thus propitiate the wrath of His Father (as well as expiate the guilt of our sin).
The Father forsook the Son in the sense that His displeasure was expressed to Him who had only known the good pleasure of His Father. And He did it all because of His love for us. Thanks be to God!
Alan D. Strange
Professor, Mid-America Reformed Seminary
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It was so we wouldn't have to!
Originally Posted by Jack K
Reformed Baptist Church
"I am not worthy of the least of all the mercies and of all the truth which You have shown Your servant" (Gen. 32:10)
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Indeed. And I think one could even say he quoted Psalm 22 so that the writer of Hebrews could say in 2:11-12, "For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren, Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee."
Originally Posted by Alan D. Strange
I've noticed time and again that when addressing Hebrews, Jesus, as well as the apostles, would often quote a part of a psalm or other passage, expecting the hearers to know the whole context of the psalm or passage. Jesus, even in his agony, brought his hearers to understand the significance of what was going on, and he as good as said: "what Psalm 22 speaks of, you are witnessing."
And Psalm 22, after describing the agony of his suffering, switches gears dramatically at verse 22: "I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee."
He is calling those who trust in him his brothers. Through his suffering he has promised to stand before the Father, as a High Priest, and pronounce believers to be his brothers and sisters, which means, that these believers are the Father's children.
It gives me goosebumps to think of such things. All glory to our only true High Priest!
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I have thought of that phrasing as calling to mind the end of Psalm 22 --Christ taking up the rest of that language He used on the cross (I can't help thinking it sustained His own faith and hope as well testifying something to others?) -- part of what is being cited in Hebrews?
Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers
and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father
, to my God and your God.’”
(And then, Vic, as you say -- His calling on God in these words of the Psalm is actually still a very profound invoking of God as Father, and bringing us into that relationship?)
'I cannot live like Jesus, example though he be
For he was strong and selfless, and I am tied to me.
But I have asked my Jesus to live his life in me . . .
Behold his warm, his tangible, his dear humanity.' -Betty Stam
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Wow. Once again, I am blessed by the depth of insight found on this board. I'd only been bringing Jesus' cry on the cross and Psalm 22 together. Adding in Hebrews 2 and John 20 makes it all so much richer!
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