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| | | "Good Friday" or Wednesday?? With "Good Friday" being tommorow I felt curious enough to raise a subject that has probably been raised here before (probably every year, that seems to be the trend with questions regarding "holidays").
Did our Lord and Saviour give His life for us on the Sixth or Fourth day of the week?? | 
03-20-2008, 04:07 PM
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| | | Well Matthew and John make no direct mention of the day of the week but Mark and Luke clearly says that the crucifixion occurred on the day before the Sabbath, with Matthew and John also mentioning the "Day of Preparation". | 
03-20-2008, 06:15 PM
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| | Here are a couple of passages that point to a Wednesday crucifixion. Quote:
Matt. 12:40 (kjv)
40For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
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Matt. 27:46 (KJV)
46And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
| The 9th hr is 3PM, if it were on friday Christ would only be in the grave for one night and one day. Because Christ was rissen before daybreak on the first day. John 20:1, Mark 16:1-8 Quote:
John 19:14 and John 19:31 (KJV)
14And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! .................................
31The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
| The Sabbath Day mentioned was the passover, a high sabbath day, not the seventh day sabbath. | 
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Originally Posted by Sonoftheday Here are a couple of passages that point to a Wednesday crucifixion. Quote:
Matt. 12:40 (kjv)
40For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
| | I'ver wondered this too, I've heard arguments for a Wednesday crucification since if Christ died on Friday evening and was buried, the next night would be night one (Saturday night), the next night would be night two (Sunday night) and the next night would be night 3 (Monday night) and then Tuesday Morning would be the day he would have been raised? Do I have that right?
But if he died on a Wednesday night, then he would have been raised on a Sunday morning correct?  bery bery interesting
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Originally Posted by Sonoftheday Here are a couple of passages that point to a Wednesday crucifixion. Quote:
Matt. 12:40 (kjv)
40For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
| | I'ver wondered this too, I've heard arguments for a Wednesday crucification since if Christ died on Friday evening and was buried, the next night would be night one (Saturday night), the next night would be night two (Sunday night) and the next night would be night 3 (Monday night) and then Tuesday Morning would be the day he would have been raised? Do I have that right?
But if he died on a Wednesday night, then he would have been raised on a Sunday morning correct?  bery bery interesting | If Christ was crucified on Wednesday, why would Wednesday night not be night one?
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| | | I read a good article once that explained that it would most likely have been not Wednesday or Friday, but Thursday. Since Jesus was taken down and buried on the day He died, He would have been in the grave Thursday night, Friday night and Saturday night, and risen on Sunday.
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Originally Posted by Sonoftheday Here are a couple of passages that point to a Wednesday crucifixion. | I'ver wondered this too, I've heard arguments for a Wednesday crucification since if Christ died on Friday evening and was buried, the next night would be night one (Saturday night), the next night would be night two (Sunday night) and the next night would be night 3 (Monday night) and then Tuesday Morning would be the day he would have been raised? Do I have that right?
But if he died on a Wednesday night, then he would have been raised on a Sunday morning correct?  bery bery interesting | If Christ was crucified on Wednesday, why would Wednesday night not be night one? | I've never counted the day of an event as day one, since a full day would be 24 hours. Right when the event happened is when I would start counting.
For example, I will arrive in Los Angeles the evening of March 26th, so since it's the evening of March 20th, I would say the evening of the 21st is the 1st day, the evening of the 22nd is the 2nd day, the evening of the 23rd is the 3rd day.. all the way up to the evening of the 26th which would be 6 completed days instead of 7days ) 
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If Christ was crucified on Wednesday, why would Wednesday night not be night one?
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Wednesday 6pm- thurs 6 am= 1 night
Thurs 6am-6pm= 1 day
Thurs 6pm- fri 6am= 2 night
fri 6am-6pm= 2day
fri 6pm- sat 6am= 3night
sat 6pm- 6pm= 3 day
and he rose before daybreak on Sunday (the First day) but because they counted days from sunset to sunset rather than sunrise to sunrise it was still on sunday, but the night had not gone by making it 4 nights. | | The Following User Says Thank You to Sonoftheday For This Useful Post: | | 
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| | | oops I said that wrong. He would have died on Thursday, Friday night started the first day/night (after sunset), Saturday night would have started at sunset the next day, then Sunday(the third day would have started at the next sunset) and He arose that morning of that day. | 
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| | | 1 Cor 15 says He was raised on the 'third day'. Wouldn't you start counting with the day of His death? IOW Friday? Friday was the first day of His death, Sat the second day of His death, and Sun the third day of His death.
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1 Cor 15 says He was raised on the 'third day'. Wouldn't you start counting with the day of His death? IOW Friday? Friday was the first day of His death, Sat the second day of His death, and Sun the third day of His death.
| I am pretty sure, from my studies of Christ's postressurection appearances on the Lord's day, that the Jewish way of counting would not have included the day of his death as the first day. But I am unsure of that, I think Bruce (Contra_Mundum) told me something about this.
NEVERMIND, I found the post where he told me, and the Jewish way of counting was to include the day. If a Jew said in Three days I will rise that could mean on Friday he would die, however I am still confused on how to fit 3 nights into a friday crucifixion.
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1 Cor 15 says He was raised on the 'third day'. Wouldn't you start counting with the day of His death? IOW Friday? Friday was the first day of His death, Sat the second day of His death, and Sun the third day of His death.
| I am pretty sure, from my studies of Christ's postressurection appearances on the Lord's day, that the Jewish way of counting would not have included the day of his death as the first day. But I am unsure of that, I think Bruce (Contra_Mundum) told me something about this. | If He died on Thursday afternoon, that evening, after sunset, would be the new day (Friday, day one), because of the Jewish way of starting a day at sunset. So according to our way of doing things, it would be the same day, but not according to the Jewish way. If He died on Friday, there would not be enough days, and if He died on Wednesday, there would be too many nights. | 
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Originally Posted by KMK 1 Cor 15 says He was raised on the 'third day'. Wouldn't you start counting with the day of His death? IOW Friday? Friday was the first day of His death, Sat the second day of His death, and Sun the third day of His death. | I am preparing a sermon on this area right now and that is precisely how I would read the scriptures.
John McArthur points out that:
The Jewish Talmud a major commentary on scripture and tradition, says a day and a night makes one onah (season), and a part of an onah is as the whole.
It is an interesting area for thought but perhaps something which we can over-think.
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| | Three days--Friday Saturday Sunday as cited by:
Alfred Edersheim The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah (volume 2, page 630): Quote: |
It was the first day of the week--according to Jewish reckoning the third day from His Death.
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| | Here are a couple books which teach a Wednesday crucifixion
A HARMONY OF THE GOSPELS BY LORAINE BOETTNER
PRESBYTERIAN AND REFORMED PUBLISHING COMPANY
PHILLIPSBURG, NEW JERSEY Quote:
ON WHAT DAY WAS CHRIST CRUCIFIED?
We believe that the Scriptures teach that Christ was crucified on Wednesday rather than Friday as is generally supposed. The sabbath following the day on which He was crucified was not the regular sabbath, for John tells us, "The day of that sabbath was a high day" (19:31), that is, a special sabbath or holy day on which no work could be done.
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ALSO
An Historical Harmony of the Gospels
by: Robert J. Sargent.
A four-column chronological harmony of the four Gospel accounts of the life and ministry of our Lord Jesus Christ, accompanied by maps, chronological notes, and a detailed chart of the “passion week.”
Unlike most other harmonies, this volume does not correct the Word of God and it presents a Wednesday crucifixion in accordance with Matthew 12:40.
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| | | EW Bullinger also recons it to be Wednesday. But he also reckons there were 5 crosses instead of 3. | 
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| | | I am a Thursday man myself. Although the Jews considered part of the day as a whole nevertheless three days and three nights is quite specific. It was the day of preparation for the passover (Jn 19.14, 42) and in Jn 19.31 the sabbath is described as a high day (NASB) or Special sabbath (NIV) you could have Thursday (day of preparation), Friday (Passover) and Saturday (regular weekly sabbath). Thus at dawn on Sunday Jesus had arisen
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Originally Posted by Simply_Nikki Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonoftheday Here are a couple of passages that point to a Wednesday crucifixion. Quote:
Matt. 12:40 (kjv)
40For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
| | I'ver wondered this too, I've heard arguments for a Wednesday crucification since if Christ died on Friday evening and was buried, the next night would be night one (Saturday night), the next night would be night two (Sunday night) and the next night would be night 3 (Monday night) and then Tuesday Morning would be the day he would have been raised? Do I have that right?
But if he died on a Wednesday night, then he would have been raised on a Sunday morning correct?  bery bery interesting |
Nikki,
The ancient method used by the Jews was to count "days" by days that are touched, rather than 24-hour periods. In other words, if you stayed in Chicago on Monday night, all day Tuesday, and early morning Wednesday, that would be three days.
Three years could have been reckoned as one day in one year, a whole calendar year, and one day in the next. Because the time touches "three years", it would be called "three years".
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Well.. whether Christ died on a Wednesday, Thursday or Friday. The point is he did DIE and he ROSE again =)
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| | A thought I was presented with that seems to weigh heavily against Wednesday (IMO) is this.
The women were going to dress the body of Jesus. They would not have done this on a Sabbath day, whether High or weekly. The Wednesday teaching says that Thurs was a High Sabbath and then friday was a day of open market a regular working day. Why would the loved ones of Jesus not have went to dress his body on Thursday if if this viewpoint were correct?
This still leaves it to either Thursday Or Friday. To which I am leaning toward Thursday because I do not see how the following statement can be true given a Friday Crucifixion; Quote:
Matt. 12:40 (kjv)
40For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
| Where are the three nights? There is Friday night = 1 and the partial Saturday night = 2 | 
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