Am I being too harsh in stating that this is a particularly horrendous interpretation of the opening verses of Acts 8?

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Tim Phillips
Pastor, Midlane Park Presbyterian Church (ARP)
Louisville, KY
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"Wherever the gospel is preached, it is as if God Himself came into the midst of us." ~ John Calvin

Most definitely Eisegesis in seeker sensitive form.

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Rick
Teacher/Apologist
Baptist
SE Missouri

Interpretation strained beyond the camel's fit,
Abandoned by reason, sense, wit.

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Joshua Butcher
PCA
College Station, TX

By his own words, he has condemned himself. Talk about internal inconsistency.

Here are his exact words:

"If you're a pastor that actually walks out on stage and takes shots at another pastor in your community.....you need to repent before God....Why would a pastor do that? Either because [he is] insecure, or the anointing of God is leaving him and he knows it."

Well, Mr. Noble - you are taking continual shots at the REAL pastors in your community, and you need to heed your own advice and repent, because you never had the anointing of God and you know it.

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Jeremy Gage
First Baptist Church
Durham, NC

"No heart can conceive that treasury of mercies which lies in this one privilege, in having liberty and ability to approach unto God at all times, according to his mind and will." - John Owen

More important is that he sets up a straw man as to what is wrong with his particular brand of preaching and the particulars of his reading into the passage what he wants to see is irrelevant to his not being a pastor to the flock.

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Brian Withnell
Deacon, OPC
Leesburg, Virginia

You cannot train for war in the midst of a battle. Prepare before the battle starts; if the battle is long and hard, you will wish you had.

Do you walk out onto a stage to preach? I don't.

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Curt Lovelace
Pastor, Covenant Baptist Church (CBA)
Acton, Maine
Director, Lifework Forum
Sermons at SermonAudio.com/CBCActon
Blogging at Coffee with Curt

Good one!

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Ewen
1689 LBCF
Assemblies of God Bible College
Singapore

Forgive my ignorance, is there a post on the board that will help me understand what is Multi-church? Or would wikipedias definition be enough?

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Regin
Okinawa, Baptist Deacon

It's not some fancy doctrine or term, by using it he only means multiple sites for meetings of the same church at the same time. So, the pastor would be preaching and the service conducted at one location, and the video of that service can be sent (live) to other buildings around the area. So you have many different local gatherings all hearing the same service and songs, and being members of the same church.

I would almost bet that this guy gets his sermons from a program outside his church and is following guidelines set forth to bring the same message to the multi-sites.

I thought this exact same thing when I saw this.

Ya this is definitely eisegesis

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jason d.
deacon @ Sovereign Joy Community Church
reformed baptist (LBC.1689)
fort worth (haltom city), texas

An even more important topic is why Marrow Man is such a fan of Perry Noble that he posts all of his videos here for us!

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Rev. Toby L. Brown, pastor
Jefferson Center Presbyterian Church--in, but not of, the PC(USA)
Saxonburg, PA
A Classical Presbyterian
Proud member of The Westminster Fellowship

"The happiness of the creature consists in rejoicing in God, by which God is also highly exalted." --Jonathan Edwards

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Plueezzeee....that was too funny!!

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Robert
Lay Person
PCA
West Virginia
Go share your faith

Thank you for the reply.... hmm this is interesting, it reminds me of Micheal Jackson's funeral for some strange reason.......

Who is Perry Noble?

I'd rather have Alton Brown's Good Eats broadcast on a wall on Sunday morning than one of Perry Noble's sermons.

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Ben
Chaplain, US Army
Ft. Riley, KS
TE Ohio Valley Presbytery, PCA

the eyes... the wide, staring, scary eyes. they get me every time.

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Jonathan Hunt

Elder holding forth the word of life at:
Cheltenham Evangelical Free Church (Confessionally Based)
Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, United Kingdom

Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence.
-- Thomas Elsworth

I believe someone here said that he looks like he just woke up and came to church, and that he still lives in his parents basement.

Several years ago when I was in another denomination I had a pastor friend who had a multi-site church. They were one church in two locations. Their main reason to do this was two-fold: one was to reach more people with two locations, the other was that the first site was the original church that had a traditional service, and the new site offered a contemporary service. At the time the only thing that bothered me was I felt my friend was caught up in marketing strategies to get the church to grow. I have not really thought about the multi-site idea again until this past week when there was a television commercial for the largest church in our area. The new site has already had some services but their "opening Sunday" is this weekend. The preaching has been broadcasted from the main church onto television screens. The new site does have it's own pastor but I am not sure how much preaching he is actually going to do. Last week they had over one thousand people attend the "new site" in three different Sunday morning services. While it sounds great that all those people have shown up, something about this just doesn't smell right!

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Rev. Andy Eppard
Associate Minister
First Cumberland Presbyterian Church
Springfield, MO

I would be the one responsible for such a statement.

He has lured away a couple of families from a former church of ours to NewSpring. So, it's personal.

Is this guy a comedian?

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Matthew Philip Miller | Reformed Baptist, SBC
Student of Theology at Trinity College of Florida

Iniquities prevail against me; As for our transgressions, You will provide atonement for them. Blessed is the man You choose, And cause to approach You, That he may dwell in Your courts. We shall be satisfied with the goodness of Your house, Of Your holy temple.
Psalms 65:3-4 (NKJV)

I think he's a frustrated comedian. Seriously.

I still can't help but think when I see stuff like this... Isn't the point of preaching to talk about Christ?

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Megan Meisberger
River Hills Community Church - EFCA (yes... same as charliejunfan)
Janesville, WI

Wife of matt.meisberger

<---- Naming my first son after him. My husband was saved while reading Religious Affections.

This is about the 4th video clip of him I looked at. With the info I have, I'd put him on a variety show, not behind a pulpit.

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Rich Koster
1689'er
Browns Mills NJ USA
Often Goofy Reformed Eccentric
Romans 7:14-25

If that's the case, then Perry Noble is completely wrong to say Acts 8 refers to a multi-site church. In Acts 8 there was a different preacher at each site.

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Mark Hettler
PCA
Central NJ

God answers prayers in one of two ways: "Yes," or "I have something better."

He's right that a pastor shouldn't get up on stage and criticize other pastors...A pastor shouldn't get up on stage at all.

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These stage churches get on my nerves. The "pastor" and the musicians deliver the service TO the congregation, who might as well be eating popcorn. It is supposed to be the congregation corporately worshiping God (under the leadership of elders, of course).

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Austin
EE student at Texas State University
Member of Church of the Cross (PCA) in San Marcos, TX
Ps. 8:3-4 "When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?"

Perry's m.o. is to justify the oddities of his ministry by making those who disagree with them feel guilty and inadequate, often by the type of exegesis displayed on the video. Quite a shepherd indeed!

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Kipp Soncek
Pastoral Ministry Apprentice--Grace Church of Dupage
Student--Midwest Center for Theological Studies
Illinois; 1689 LBCF
But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.
Acts 20:24

That...is awful. I pray the Lord would grant Perry repentance that leads to salvation if he is not a brother and if he is, the Lord would bring correction upon him.

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Michael P Doyle
Waukesha WI
Member of http://www.cornerstone-pca.com/
Attending http://www.lampseminary.org/

I was going to make light of the first quote, it being tongue-in-cheek I'm sure, but since it's painfully personal for you Marrow Man, you're right. It (the Perry Noble lure) is not even close to being funny.

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Donald P. Grubb
theol46@embarqmail.com

Berean Baptist Church, Mansfield, OH
Mansfield, OH

John 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing.
The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

You are correct, but no offense would have been taken either, friend.