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The denial of complementarianism undermines the church's practical embrace of the authority of Scripture (thus eventually and inevitably harming the church's witness to the Gospel).
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Pardon my ignorance, but what does he mean by complementarianism? I can infer from the response, but I'd like to know more than my inference provides.
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Originally Posted by chbrooking  Pardon my ignorance, but what does he mean by complementarianism? I can infer from the response, but I'd like to know more than my inference provides. | Complementarianism is a term used to describe a conservative theological view held by many in Christianity and other world religions that men and women have different roles and responsibilities, as manifested in marriage, religious leadership, and elsewhere...from Wikipedia.
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My I ask where this was taken? Can I have proof he actually said this.
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Originally Posted by rpeters My I ask where this was taken? Can I have proof he actually said this. | Google, FTW! Link.
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Very quick you.  The article is: Why "Together for the Gospel" Embraces Complementarianism
And a PDF version is also at the link. Quote:
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Originally Posted by rpeters My I ask where this was taken? Can I have proof he actually said this. | Google, FTW! Link. | |
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I love Ligon Duncan.
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Originally Posted by chbrooking Pardon my ignorance, but what does he mean by complementarianism? I can infer from the response, but I'd like to know more than my inference provides. | In this context, as the opposite of egalitarianism (cf. Piper and Grudem).
In a nutshell, here is the good Dr. Duncan: Quote: One, the denial of complementarianism undermines the church's practical embrace of the authority of Scripture (thus eventually and inevitably harming the church's witness to the Gospel). The gymnastics required to get from "I do not allow a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man," in the Bible, to "I do allow a woman to teach and to exercise authority over a man" in the actual practice of the local church, are devastating to the functional authority of the Scripture in the life of the people of God.
By the way, this is one reason why I think we just don't see many strongly inerrantist-egalitarians (meaning: those who hold unwaveringly to inerrancy and also to egalitarianism) in the younger generation of evangelicalism. Many if not most evangelical egalitarians today have significant qualms about inerrancy, and are embracing things like trajectory hermeneutics, etc., to justify their positions. Inerrancy or egalitarianism, one or the other, eventually wins out.
Two, and following on the first point, the church's confidence in the clarity of Scripture is undermined, because if you can get egalitarianism from the Bible, you can get anything from the Bible.
Three, because the very ideal of equality championed by egalitarianism (whether secular or Christian) is a permutation of a particular strand of Enlightenment thought, and because this particular ideal of equality is actually alien to the biblical anthropology and ethic, whenever and wherever it is read into the text of Scripture and its principles are worked out consistently, there is a competition with a biblical view of manhood and womanhood.
Four, when the biblical distinctions of maleness and femaleness are denied, Christian discipleship is seriously damaged because there can be no talk of cultivating distinctively masculine Christian virtue or feminine Christian virtue. | BTW, after more than a half century watching the decline of evangelicalism in the culture and in the conservative expressions of my former denomination, I heartily agree with Dr. Duncan. It will either be egalitarianism or inerrancy. One or the other, but not both.
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I'm sure Enlightenment has a lot to do with it but having attended a Fundamental Baptist Church growing up where the women outnumbered the men 4 to 1 due to the lack of strong male leadership I can't help to think that in many ways we are getting what we deserve.
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Sorry I misread the thread. I thougt the post was saying duncan deniying complimentarism.
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