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these books are modern masterpieces. its a pity Christians are missing out on them.
I guess shallow fairy tails of snow white, cinderella are more worthy.
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Originally Posted by Slippery these books are modern masterpieces. its a pity Christians are missing out on them.
I guess shallow fairy tails of snow white, cinderella are more worthy. | I concur!
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Originally Posted by Slippery these books are modern masterpieces. its a pity Christians are missing out on them.
I guess shallow fairy tails of snow white, cinderella are more worthy. |
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I would love to comment, but i have to go home and finish the last 200 pages of "the Deathly Hallows".
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Interesting comments. I may have to reconsider reading the series. I have not taken any interest to date, hence I have not commented. My knowledge of the series has been what other Christians have said about it. Then again, this genre is not a favorite of mine.
I will look forward to more comments....Ladies....Gentlemen....
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Originally Posted by Ivan Interesting comments. I may have to reconsider reading the series. I have not taken any interest to date, hence I have not commented. My knowledge of the series has been what other Christians have said about it. Then again, this genre is not a favorite of mine.
I will look forward to more comments....Ladies....Gentlemen.... | http://www.americanvision.org/articl...7/07-20-07.asp
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Originally Posted by Slippery these books are modern masterpieces. its a pity Christians are missing out on them.
I guess shallow fairy tails of snow white, cinderella are more worthy. | De gustibus, but I find the Potter books to be neither demonic, unChristian or dangerous, nor decent writing. I wish I could be a billionaire for writing tripe.
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Originally Posted by fredtgreco De gustibus, but I find the Potter books to be neither demonic, unChristian or dangerous, nor decent writing. I wish I could be a billionaire for writing tripe. |
Please, sir, don't hold back on your opinion.
I can't even go as far as de gustibus because, even after I extolled good fiction on the other thread, I forgot to mention my fogey-rule: I tend to only read dead authors.
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Originally Posted by fredtgreco De gustibus, but I find the Potter books to be neither demonic, unChristian or dangerous, nor decent writing. I wish I could be a billionaire for writing tripe. | | 
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Tolkien, Tolkien, he's our man -
If he can't write it, no one can!
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Apparently there are two hidden Bible quotations in this final Potter book, according to the Wall Street Journal reviewer. Apparently Harry is actually a very good little Christian boy all along, according to this guy. I haven't read it. Godless, demonic stuff, the whole lot of it - Tolkein and Lewis too. :~
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Originally Posted by x.spasitel Apparently there are two hidden Bible quotations in this final Potter book, according to the Wall Street Journal reviewer. Apparently Harry is actually a very good little Christian boy all along, according to this guy. I haven't read it. Godless, demonic stuff, the whole lot of it - Tolkein and Lewis too. :~ | Your kidding, right?
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Originally Posted by ChristianTrader | read it. Not that impressed.
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Would love to see people as excited about the Bible as they are about these books. Especially the kids!
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Concerning the american vision article, this is worthy of praise:
"Contrary to the message of the “Harry Potter” books and movies, without God you cannot choose the good. But, there is a Name above all names who will conquer evil and banish the darkness and set you on the path of righteousness. And, that name is Jesus Christ, who is the Word of God made Flesh, the only begotten Son of God who is at the Father’s side and who enlightens all men with God’s Truth (John 1:1-18). "
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Originally Posted by fredtgreco De gustibus, but I find the Potter books to be neither demonic, unChristian or dangerous, nor decent writing. I wish I could be a billionaire for writing tripe. | I suppose my taste in books is a bit lower than some (the majority of my reading aside from Scripture and school works is The Economist), but I also enjoyed the books.
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I would like to read the Potter series. However, there are two things that hinder me from reading.
1. I don't have the time
2. This genre of writing doesn't really excite me.
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Originally Posted by Blueridge reformer Would love to see people as excited about the Bible as they are about these books. Especially the kids!  | 
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I suspect even 150 years ago the views of say a R. L. Dabney were becoming the exception (see his On Dangerous Reading). 200 years ago Samuel Miller offered the following opinion in his chapter on "Romances and Novels" in his Brief Retrospect of the 18th Century. On the whole, the answer of a wise preceptor to the main question respecting the utility of novels, would probably be something like this:--That, wholly to condemn them, and rigidly to forbid the perusal of any, in the present state of the literary world, would be an indiscreet and dangerous extreme; that reading a very few, therefore, of the best is not unadviseable;[g] that in selecting these, however, great vigilance and caution should be exercised by those to whom the delicate and difficult task is committed; that the perusal of a large number, even of the better sort, has a tendency too much to engross the mind, to fill it with artificial views, and to diminish the taste for more solid reading; but that a young person habitually and indiscriminately devoted to novels, is in a fair way to dissipate his mind, to degrade his taste, and to bring on himself intellectual and moral ruin. [g] The author has no hesitation in saying, that, if it were possible, he would wholly prohibit the reading of novels. Not because there are none worthy of being perused; but because the hope that, out of the polluted and mischievous mass continually presented to the youthful mind, a tolerably wise choice will, in many instances, be made, can scarcely be thought a reasonable hope. As, however, those fictitious productions are strewed around us in such profusion, and will more or less excite the curiosity of youth, the plan of total exclusion is seldom practicable. In this case it is, perhaps, the wisest course to endeavour to regulate the curiosity which cannot be prevented, and to exercise the utmost vigilance in making a proper choice for its gratification, and in restraining this gratification within small bounds. For it may, with confidence, be pronounced, that no one was ever an extensive and especially an habitual reader of novels, even supposing them all to be well selected, without suffering both intellectual and moral injury, and of course incurring a diminution of happiness. | 
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Its just GIGO, is it not?
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Originally Posted by Kevin Your kidding, right? | Mostly. In actual manner of construction the only main difference between the Potter books and Tolkein's and Lewis's books is that the Potter books were derived from French Catholic mythology and Tolkein's and Lewis's were derived from Scandinavian, Celtic, and Saxon pagan mythology. However, you may rest assured that I do not anathematize people who read any of these.
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Originally Posted by Ivan | I think that J Edwards would have quoted Phil.4:8 and Eph.5:11-17. At any rate; we need not speculate as we know his thoughts, see here.
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