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| | | Vatican says aliens could exist No I didn't read the headline above while purusing the latest copy of the National Enquirer, it's from the BBC. BBC NEWS | Europe | Vatican says aliens could exist
My "favourite" parts of the article are when Father Gabriel Funes speculates that some "aliens could even be free from original sin" or when the author mentions that the Vatican is "organising a conference next year to mark the 200th anniversary of the birth of the author of the Origin of Species, Charles Darwin." How very progressive of them. 
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| | | Is it just me or does the Vatican try to preempt any scientific discovery or doctrine by claiming they hold to it in order to justify their 'authority' or 'infallibility'?
Maybe its that bad taste left in their mouth from that Galileo mouthwash.
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| | | My guess is that this is just the Vatican's way of plugging the new Indiana Jones movie that comes out next week.
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| | | They are making sure their spot in bed will be kept warm right next to atheistic secular science.
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Originally Posted by Barnpreacher My guess is that this is just the Vatican's way of plugging the new Indiana Jones movie that comes out next week. |  | 
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Just as there are multiple forms of life on earth, so there could exist intelligent beings in outer space created by God. And some aliens could even be free from original sin, he speculates.
| If there are aliens, intelligent beings in outer space totally separate from the human race, how would any of them be tainted by original sin? I wonder how they'd decide which are and which aren't.
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| | | John Dick, a respectable 19th century Scottish Presbyterian theologian, allows for the possibility of extraterrestial beings in Lectures on Theology, Vol. 1.
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| | | Ole John Dick was probably referring to "Wales" and "England". | 
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| | I think their called "Mormons!" Each one gets their own planet, or something like that. 
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Originally Posted by Backwoods Presbyterian Ole John Dick was probably referring to "Wales" and "England". | 
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Just as there are multiple forms of life on earth, so there could exist intelligent beings in outer space created by God. And some aliens could even be free from original sin, he speculates.
| If there are aliens, intelligent beings in outer space totally separate from the human race, how would any of them be tainted by original sin? I wonder how they'd decide which are and which aren't. | Sounds like the Space Triology by C.S. Lewis.
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Originally Posted by Barnpreacher My guess is that this is just the Vatican's way of plugging the new Indiana Jones movie that comes out next week. | Every major player is either Jewish or Buddhist so not likely.
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Originally Posted by ericfromcowtown My "favourite" parts of the article are when Father Gabriel Funes speculates that some "aliens could even be free from original sin" | Well that could very well be, I for one think they may exist.  If they did who's to say what happened there  | 
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Originally Posted by No Longer A Libertine Every major player is either Jewish or Buddhist so not likely. | Hmm? | 
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| | | This is a funny one, I guess we have to say that if the sovereign will of God decided that there should be aliens then way not. Of course they would think that we are the aliens.
However if they were aliens and had not fallen into original sin think how cool it would be if they turned out to be prebyterians!
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Originally Posted by Hippo This is a funny one, I guess we have to say that if the sovereign will of God decided that there should be aliens then way not. Of course they would think that we are the aliens.
However if they were aliens and had not fallen into original sin think how cool it would be if they turned out to be prebyterians! |  | 
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Originally Posted by Hippo However if they were aliens and had not fallen into original sin think how cool it would be if they turned out to be prebyterians! | I've actually met some Presbyterians that I thought were ali...no, never mind, I won't go there. | 
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| | | The comment about the possibility of aliens being untainted by original sin puts it directly in line with the popular thought that aliens are "superior races" compared to humans.
There is something inside of me that simply cannot even begin to think of races of beings scattered throughout the universe, all needing salvation. Images come to mind of our Savior planet hopping to shed His blood time and time again when Scripture says He died once for all. Maybe I'm too provincial, but the thought is grotesque. | 
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| | I used to believe that is was likely that there was extraterrestrial life. I thought there was a lot of wasted space if there wasn't and that God had revealed, in Scripture, only what needed to be known to redeem earthlings.
These days I lean heavily against the presence of ET for three reasons:
1. Gen. 1:14ff tells us why the heavenly lights were created and there is no mention of sustaining life apart from earth. In fact these verses seem to indicate that the heavenly lights are earth centric in their purpose. Quote: |
14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth.” And it was so. 16 And God made the two great lights—the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night—and the stars. 17 And God set them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18 to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good.
| 2. Psalm 115 again seems to speak of man (earthlings) as the center of God's creation. Quote:
Ps. 115:16 The heavens are the Lord's heavens,
but the earth he has given to the children of man.
| 3. Finally, it is only the pragmatist that sees the universe as a lot of wasted space. Psalm 19 tells us that it is not wasted at all but the palette on which the Creator displays his infinite weightiness. Quote:
19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God,
and the sky above proclaims his handiwork.
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If there are aliens, intelligent beings in outer space totally separate from the human race, how would any of them be tainted by original sin? I wonder how they'd decide which are and which aren't.
| Unless they are demons. If a UFO every lands on the planet, most of the world would bow in worship. I don't put anything past Satan that the Lord doesn't allow.
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