Clever political move by the Pope. Some evangelicals might think it's time to return to Rome.

Is the Pope Catholic? Now he plans to rehabilitate 'heretic' Martin Luther | the Daily Mail

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Mark Van Der Molen
Immanuel URC
DeMotte, Indiana

Awww, isn't that sweet?! I can feel the love!

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Ivan Schoen, Pastor
Maranatha Baptist Church
Poplar Grove, Illinois USA
http://maranatha-sbc.org/
"When a denomination begins to consider doctrine divisive, theology troublesome, and convictions inconvenient, consider that denomination on its way to a well-deserved death." Dr. Albert Mohler, President of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary

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Andrew Myers
Husband of Jessica, Father of Jackson, Katie and Samuel
Member, Presbyterian Reformed Church of Northern Virginia
Warrenton, VA USA
Editor, The Matthew Poole Project

"On land, at sea, at home, abroad, / I smoke my pipe and worship God." -- J.S. Bach

Luther said:

"If the Pope will throw away his crown and descend from his throne and primacy, and confess that he has erred, has destroyed the church, and poured out innocent blood, then we wil recieve him into the church, otherwise, we must regard him as Antichrist."

And then he said,


"This one thing preserve when I am dead, namely, hatred towards the Roman Pontiff."

I DON'T THINK LUTHER WANTS TO BE REHABILITATED!!!

(Just a guess!)

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Sterling Harmon
Coventry, CT
PCA
Deacon
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"Whatever is laudable in our works proceeds from the grace of God."
-- John Calvin, Institutes III:xv.3.

"Our Lord God must be a good man, to be fond of worthless fellows. I cannot like them, and yet I, myself, am one."
-- Martin Luther, Table Talk

Article, "Vatican insiders say the 80-year-old Pope - himself born in Germany - will argue that his countryman was not a heretic after all."

First we (Confessional Protestants, Reformed, Luteran, etc.) were heretics, then separated brothers, and now soon to be brothers. But the RC Church tells us that they never change.

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Gil Garcia
Rehoboth Reformed Church (RCUS)
La Habra, CA


"Indeed, one might say that as far as the doctrine of justification
is concerned, if you are not on the road to Wittenberg or Geneva, then the old proverb is indeed true: all roads lead to Rome." Carl Trueman

I think it has more to do with money than anything else.

Bring the Lutherans closer to the RCC and perhaps they might get some converts. Lord knows that Rome isn't getting many Epicopailians anymore.

Just my

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Rev. Toby Holland
Director of Evangelism
Wiltsie Community Church (CCCC)

I'm sure there's a lot less there than meets the eye. The Roman Catholic Church is just continuing its long-standing campaign to unite all Christians - under its banner!

Sorry, no sale...

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Richard T. Zuelch, M.Div
Ruling Elder, OPC (not currently serving)
Westminster Presbyterian Church, CA (OPC)
www.reiterations.wordpress.com
www.foft.wordpress.com

Talking to oneself is, I believe, considered a sign of lunacy. Thinking to oneself is most certainly a sign of it. - G. K. Chesterton (1874-1936), in January, 1906

You've got to hand it to them, though. They've kept at least a modicum of discipline for centuries, and what's happened to some of "our" denominations? I was just discussing every one's favorite Bishop of Durham with a Pastor I met with in Irvine today, and I told him about Wright's justification for rejecting the RC Father Kasper's speech to the House of Bishops when he called for continuing the status quo that women can't be Bishops. Bishop Wright co-authored the official response, which was that yes, it's good an proper for women to be Bishops.

So now we have one of the most conservative Bishops in the COE slamming Rome for not ordaining women Bishops.

Wow. At this rate the RC church will be a better choice for many people than some Protestant churches.

Now that is, I think, even more sad than pathetic.

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Tim Vaughan, 48 years old, member PCA church but currently attending EV Free church. San Luis Obispo County, California.

Speaking of returning to Rome, when's his flight leave?

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Bob Howes
Framingham, MA

A reoccurring thought:

Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bob -- Here is his schedule for the rest of the trip:

Friday, 10:45 a.m.

The pope will address the United Nations after an early morning flight to New York.

Friday, 6 p.m.

On Benedict's way to an ecumenical prayer service, he will make an informal, 20-minute visit to the Park East Synagogue. He will continue to the prayer service with leaders from other Christian denominations at St. Joseph's Church, founded by German Catholics, in Manhattan.

Saturday, 9:15 a.m.

Mass for priests, deacons and members of religious orders at St. Patrick's Cathedral in Manhattan.

Saturday, 4:30 p.m.

The pope will meet with young Catholics, including 50 with a range of disabilities, at St. Joseph's Seminary in Yonkers, N.Y. He also will speak at a rally/prayer service for young people, including seminarians.

Sunday, 9:30 a.m.

The pope will visit Ground Zero, the site of the Sept. 11, 2001, attack at the World Trade Center.

Sunday, 2:30 p.m.

Mass at Yankee Stadium.

Sunday, 8 p.m.

The pope leaves JFK International Airport for Rome.

When is he gonna revoke the decisions of the Council of Trent?

As a reformed believer, that is the important one...

Oh, and read the whole article, including this juicy little tidbit in the end:


Afraid (no, I suppose, in a certain sense, happy to say), that the Council of Trent will stand...

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Bert Mulder
Elder of the First Protestant Reformed Church of Edmonton
Edmonton Alberta Canada

I can't say that the pope's visit has brought out the best of the Puritan Board voices. I'll be happy when this catharsis is over. I still see the RCC as a wayward whore of a mother and I pray that there can someday be a revival within her.

I can't join in with the hysterical bashing but I will give you Mr. Paisley who did it more boldly than any other man I've heard (who wasn't burned later at the stake, that is.)

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Bob Vigneault (Bawb Vēēn-yo)
I just know there's got to be a pony in here somewhere!

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Good one! Head back to Rome Harlot Priest King. Your "upkeep" is rather expensive.

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~etexas~

Amen, brother. I stand with Luther on this quote. We will one day see the anti-Christ and his crown cast into the lake of fire.

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Stephen Welch
PCA Teaching Elder
Nova Scotia

The Roman cult will never change. Rome believes that she cannot be reformed, for she is the "true church." As long as Trent remains the official statement of denying salvation by grace alone, she will remain in error.

I do not agree with all of this man's theology, but I love him as a brother and stand with him in his opposition to Rome. He has received much false press coverage in the U.S., but if you listened to the last of the video he represented Roman Catholics fairly as an member of British Parliament. He would often go to the homes of grieving Roman Catholics, who lost a family member to the war in N. Ireland, and minister to them. He despises the papacy and its false system, but shows compassion to Roman Catholics.

May your plane be on schedule and may the door not hit you on your way out.

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~Jay~
Husband of ENS, father of J II. | Indian Trail, NC
Teacher Aide, Union County Public Schools, NC
Communicant Member, Precentor | Presbyterian Reformed Church of Charlotte, NC | Presbyterian Reformed Church

I had one last beer with Joe last night and at the end of the evening I said, "So, I bet you're looking forward to getting back to the Vat cave", (that's what we call the vatican.

He smiled and looked down at his ruby red shoes, clicked the heals together 3 times and said, "There's no place like Rome, there's no place like Rome, there's no place like Rome."