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Yeeeehawwwww! You go JOE! I don't want to hear any of you accusing my Franzi drinking buddy of being wishy-washy. He has set his hand to the plow and he's not looking back. I just hope no body poisons his soup like they did to poor old John Paul the Oneth.

I love a man of strong conviction and this type of thing just endears me even more to him. Hey Joe! Call my cell, we'll go see Transformers or something and then get a beer! We'll celebrate our differences. Wooohoooo!

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Bob Vigneault (Bawb Vēēn-yo)
I just know there's got to be a pony in here somewhere!

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10:25 AM CDT on Tuesday, July 10, 2007
Associated Press

LORENZAGO DI CADORE, Italy - Pope Benedict XVI has reasserted the universal primacy of the Roman Catholic Church, approving a document released Tuesday that says Orthodox churches were defective and that other Christian denominations were not true churches.


The demon possesed fat man in the funny hat has spoken. All bow and do reverence.

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Psa 55:16 As for me, I will call upon God; and the LORD shall save me.
Psa 55:17 Evening, and morning, and at noon, will I pray, and cry aloud: and he shall hear my voice.
James Farley, Wilderness Road Baptist Assembly.
Husband of Melissa and father of Ann.
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Sort of drags down the ECT momentum a little, doesn't it.

Nice to have things set out clearly, it's a lot more fun when the lines are drawn.

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R.Vic Bottomly
Providence Reformed Baptist Church, Tacoma, WA

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Something tells me Ian Paisley is doing a happy dance right about now. I saw that earlier and found it encouraging that the pope is contradicting the KumBaYah ECT nonsense.

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I am taking extreme umbrage with that statement sir. The man is NOT fat. If you continue in calling him fat then I will raise my extreme umbrage to utter vexation. See if I won't.

Fat man with a funny hat in a Halloween costume!

The papacy is an antichrist at best and the Antichrist at worst.

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My name is Davis. I am the Lord's.

I gather with saints at Bethel Presbyterian Church here in Lake Charles, LA, where I live.

[b][SIZE="3"]"[/SIZE][/b][COLOR="RoyalBlue"]I dwell in the high and holy place, also with him that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones[/COLOR].[b][SIZE="3"]"[/SIZE][/b] -Our Father, the Lord God (Isaiah 57:15)

Well said young man.

They take their hard line -- let no one complain when we take ours. The God of truth judge between us.

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Steve Rafalsky
Elder, International Evangelical Church (Reformed)
Limassol, Cyprus

"I am set for the defense of the gospel" (Philippians 1:17)

"Strengthened with all might, according to His glorious
power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness..." (Colossians 1:11)

Well it's a good thing they don't have to exercise private judgement! One has to wonder how we Protestants got by so far without such infallible certainty as the Rock of Peter provides for his flock.

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Vaughn Shideler
St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church
Toronto, ON, Canada

This Pope is the only Roman Catholic person thinking and acting CONCISTENTLY as a True Catholic. Too bad, the English and American Catholics (Cardinals, Bishops, Priest, Laity, etc.) are ignorant to see their own true religious belifs. Seems to me that the Devil is changing once again his strategy and bringing once again divisions, lies, hatred, etc.

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Gil Garcia
Rehoboth Reformed Church (RCUS)
La Habra, CA


"Indeed, one might say that as far as the doctrine of justification
is concerned, if you are not on the road to Wittenberg or Geneva, then the old proverb is indeed true: all roads lead to Rome." Carl Trueman

At the very least there is now someone sitting in Rome that recognizes the vast chasm between Catholocism and Protestantism. I can at least commend that. IMO it is good to see the polarization. Now we can stop beating around the bushes regarding the vast differences between the Roman church and biblical Christianity.

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Donald Jacobs
Marysville. WA
Cascade Church (CRCNA)

Cum vero infirmor tunc potens sum.

I don't care what that ex-NAZI dotard thinks anyway! Devil take him..........oh wait.......he already has.

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Godwin's Law went into effect after only 13 posts into the thread. How about THAT?!!

At least he is being honest and open about it. But I doubt the ECT "true believers" will listen to what he says.

This part of the article was amazing:

Makes me think of the abused wife that makes excuses for the husband and refuses to press charges or leave [I mean no offense to those who have dealt with spouse abuse].

It very clear that to the Pope, ecumenicalism means everyone else becoming RC.

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Dave Hall
Elgin, Texas
Ruling Elder
Providence Presbyterian Church, OPC (near Austin, TX)

"A Jedi's strength flows from the Java." - Yoda (paraphrased)

Max? Did you change your name?

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Davidius
Husband of Emilia
Member: First Reformed Presbyterian Church of Durham (RPCNA) - Durham, NC
Currently in the process of transferring membership to an as-yet-undecided church in Chapel Hill
Student: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, German Literature and Classics

Does anyone know if the document is available online?

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Scott Roberts
Ruling Elder, Lakeside Presbyterian Church (PCA)
Southlake, Texas

I haven't found the document just this basic articles. Here's a good site for all our pure-bred Protestants against the antichrists of Rome.

The Pope has just reaffirmed what so many of us already knew and stood against for so long.

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Joshua Upchurch
Calvary Baptist Church (Dearing, GA)
Liberty University, DLP student, Lynchburg, VA

The Isle of Hope

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Chris Poe
Mandeville, LA

"There are the foolish fanatics always to be found in such a movement and always discrediting it--the lunatic fringe in all reform movements." Theodore Roosevelt

This looks most relevant to us:
It is interesting that they have a pretty clear answer on what makes a church. Protestants often do not. There is much disagreement and confusion on this issue. If an unordained guy gets some people together, calls the group a church, and starts doing some churchy things (eg. "preaching" and singing), is the organization a church? Most evangelicals would say yes. Many people on this puritan-themed board would say yes.

Let us remain equally clear why we draw a line of difference that cannot be ignored. These are the words of the "Mother" church from Trent.

i am checking Chuck Colson's site frequently to see if he will comment on it.

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J. B. Atken
John Knox PCA
Layman, M.A. student at Louisiana College

Maybe he will return his Templeton.........................RIGHT...... ..

The new papal document's understanding is consistent with the way I originally read Lumen Gentium and related docs, except I was not clear on "subsists," and am still not totally clear.

The VII docs still say that protestants are "Christians" and "brothers," which is good. Their failure to recognize protestant groups generally as churches is not surprising. We have a hard time ourselves determining that.

I am Roman Catholic Educated, those of us who are former RCC pupils or members call this madness "Roman Logic".