Dao,

I think Jessi (he_beholds) is aware of the history of Halloween. I think most Christians who participate in it are aware of the history. They've thought this through and figured out that their conscience is clear. Jessi and others have said over and over and over that Halloween is something different than it was hundreds of years ago. Today, Halloween to them is simply dressing up (for most, in non-spooky costumes) and getting candy.

You can disagree if you want. You can discuss it too. But dear brother, I am sorry if I am wrong but it sounds like you are being condescending, and it's breaking my heart. It sounds like others are offering valid points but you aren't dealing with them. It seems like you are just feeling angry about it and repeating yourself again and in such a way to make it sound like you think those who practice Halloween are stupid because they haven't seen that is so obviously worshiping Satan. Dear brother I am not angry, just trying to point out somethings out.

Continue to disagree and discuss it but remember please that this may be one of those issues of conscience.



This is just my little blip and I'm not going to join the debate just so you know.

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Megan Meisberger
River Hills Community Church - EFCA (yes... same as charliejunfan)
Janesville, WI

Wife of matt.meisberger

<---- Naming my first son after him. My husband was saved while reading Religious Affections.

Thank you for your reply.

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Can anyone here post some Bible quotes why Christians shouldn't participate in the halloween celebration? Lets let God speak for Himself regarding this.

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Dao
PCA
Atlanta, GA

"Free will," says Charles Spurgeon, "has carried many souls to hell but never a soul to heaven."

Oh! Sorry. Forgive me. I had to re-evaluate myself here. I thought I was doing a good thing. Here's another opinion of my ~own~ about holidays. I'll try not to sound so angry here.
As a former advertising specialist of the largest retail store in the nation and possibly the world, it used to be my job to advertise to as many people into buying more through the use of magazine ads, broadcast, Internet and other media. Through the media, we can create a world. People want to have the same thing on the TV ads and media. People say, "I want that and I want to buy it". Early, every summer, we work on an advertising campaign to make the most profits during the Christmas rush. We want to make more money than the competitors. Yes! that's called greed but to some, it's called business. My job was to try to make others feel that you love another person by buying gifts for that person during a certain time frame to copy what the 3 wise kings did for Jesus. It gives a meaning. Folks challenge each other and buy a better gifts than others. Everybody did this for many years since Saint Nicholas. If you don't buy a gift, there a chance you don't love that person according to the headlines and sub headlines of the popular medias and in exchange, they won't feel you love them. Now, Wall Street got more greedy and loaned more money to buy more toys to give folks a big feeling of expressing their love to another through the use of gifts or food. What happened?

We C R A S H E D !

People stop expressing themselves and stopped shopping. We're living in it! It's getting worst , some say.
It's the same thing with halloween. Formally, I -used-to try to create a new feeling of what halloween is today. My job was to add fun, f u n , FUN to the game and make more money for the companies. It's like the old creepy Halloween movie where they made millions of pumpkin masks for every kid to control their thoughts on halloween day. We use candy and costumes and other great fun stuff to have a fun day and show people how they should think. My ~former~ job was to create a feeling of fun and make the most money. My budget was 30 million dollars and we spent them well and made LOTS more off trick or treaters in recent years. Its another form of greed that makes our economy worst (or temporarily better) when wall street crashes. I think its wrong to make others feel that it's ok to spend half of our paychecks for useless presents just to make others feel loved or to have fun. In my world through the marketing department and reports, I see how much money spent on unhealthy goodies and bad environments using spooky toys. I think the Bible is right. Money can be use wrongly and should be used for better useful things. Halloween is an example of useless things. Fun but for one day on halloween? Why that one day created by the Satanist? I'm not angry. Am I? I see the history of Halloween and I see the warnings the bible teaches us. I'm simply observing the situation and expressing it here in this topic of the forum. Personally, I think I'm helping the situation, not making it worst.
Yes! I did spend $4 for a bag of candy. Why? Cause some here think I should. why do you think I should?

Easter bunnies and Easter candy? That's another story.

Why do we get bent out of shape about the celebration of other pagan holidays on this board (let's take Christmas for an instance), a holiday that, as incorrect as it may be, is meant to glorify the birth of our Lord and Saviour, but take a holiday that is meant to celebrate the underworld, whose most joyful celebrants are Druids, Witches and Satanists, and there is great self-justification.

Is no-one else left speechless by the absurdity in the juxtaposition of these two examples?

If Dawkins started an annual celebration of the death of God at his own hands, in which people went around bringing gifts to each other to celebrate the destruction of a myth of Biblical proportions, would we as Christians EVER say, "well, I don't care for its origins, we just bring presents to our friends because that's the thing to do on this day"?

God forbid.

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Kevin, husband of a truly angelic woman, and father to ten.
Zion United Reformed Church of Sheffield
Ontario, Canada

That example is just as absurd as using the example of Christmas to justify Halloween.

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Christabella Warren
Fourth Presbyterian Church
Bethesda, MD
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These evils I deserve, and more . . . . Justly, yet despair not of his final pardon, Whose ear is ever open, and his eye Gracious to re-admit the suppliant. -- John Milton's Samson Agonistes

Basta, basta.

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Moderator
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