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    Beyond Unbelievable

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    It doesn't work. Lost in translation.
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    Beyond Unbelievable

    Clearly, I cannot figure out how to embed a video here, though I know it can be done. But if you want to see something that will make your blood run cold, check this out.
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    Are you SURE Obama isn't the Anti-christ? I say that tongue in cheek, but....
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    I don't know, but clearly some think he is a god...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin.carroll View Post
    I don't know, but clearly some think he is a god...
    We'll see how that works for them, but the end result will be very, very ugly for them. I'd like to know how the 'clergy' is.
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    Ecclesiastes 1:9

    What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun.

    That was just plain nutty!
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    wow. when I heard "Hear our cry Obama" I just turned it off. I wonder what Obama himself would say about this. He says he is a Christian so surely he would speak out against this if he was aware of it, right?
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    wow. when I heard "Hear our cry Obama" I just turned it off. I wonder what Obama himself would say about this. He says he is a Christian so surely he would speak out against this if he was aware of it, right?
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    Wow. That is amazing. I thought the video of the kids singing reminded me of a communist regime worshipping the supreme leader, but this reminds me that beyond that, people are elevating him to a godlike status.
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    Absolute abomination, or should I say, Obama-nation
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    One of the many reasons to reject socialism: ultimately the collective must be led by one (or a group of 'one') in order to ensure the stability of 'equality for all' except that, as famously stated by Orwell, some are (or will be) more equal than others.

    Tragically then the presidency, originally intended to provide a balance to the other authorities so that the law might be upheld in the face of power mongering, is now the vehicle through which this stability might be achieved because of the ignorance of the populace and the pandering of many other elected officials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poimen View Post
    One of the many reasons to reject socialism: ultimately the collective must be led by one (or a group of 'one') in order to ensure the stability of 'equality for all' except that, as famously stated by Orwell, some are (or will be) more equal than others.

    Tragically then the presidency, originally intended to provide a balance to the other authorities so that the law might be upheld in the face of power mongering, is now the vehicle through which this stability might be achieved because of the ignorance of the populace and the pandering of many other elected officials.
    Socialism, Capitalism....All man made economic theories are flawed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres View Post
    He says he is a Christian so surely he would speak out against this if he was aware of it, right?
    He said that during the campaign to help his election chances. After leaving the Rev. Wright's "church" I believe he attended a D.C. Episcopal "church" once or twice. He won't be a Christian again until reelection gets closer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berean View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Andres View Post
    He says he is a Christian so surely he would speak out against this if he was aware of it, right?
    He said that during the campaign to help his election chances. After leaving the Rev. Wright's "church" I believe he attended a D.C. Episcopal "church" once or twice. He won't be a Christian again until reelection gets closer.
    Im puzzled by those who take his christianity serious. There is a video on youtube, where he mocks scripture. Alan Keys, said it best when he said " Jesus Christ would not vote for Barack Obama".

    Their debate is on youtube.
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    My buddy who's an uber-liberal atheist democrat says he doesn't believe for a second that Obama is a Christian, and also voiced a preference the Obama just be honest and reject the notion. I agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenas View Post
    My buddy who's an uber-liberal atheist democrat says he doesn't believe for a second that Obama is a Christian, and also voiced a preference the Obama just be honest and reject the notion. I agreed.
    If those who are blunt about their unbelief can see it, how come those who go to church cant?
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    They are so lost.... I pray the Lord will grant them repentence from such blasphemy...
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    I don't know what they were saying in their earlier petitions, but latterly it sounded like. "Deliver us, O God." rather than "Deliver us , Obama" (?)

    I don't think they're mentioning Obama.
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