Anyone following the Popes every movement on EWTN? Anyone watch the masses he has been doing?

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Erick Bohndorf PCA, KS
http://qayaqtraveler.blogspot.com/
Jeremiah 23:16,17, "Thus says the Lord of hosts: “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes. They speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord. 17They say continually to those who despise the word of the Lord, ‘It shall be well with you’; and to everyone who stubbornly follows his own heart, they say, ‘No disaster shall come upon you."

No. I am not waisting my time in following the steps of this man who is leading the souls of men to hell.

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Stephen Welch
PCA Teaching Elder
Nova Scotia

No not on EWTN. Were he here in Australia I might be protesting against him, but I still don't think I would follow his every move.

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T W Hopper
Member, Presbyterian Reformed Church
Currently between churches since PRC closed here - attending Crossroads Christian Church.
Canberra, Australia.

I would join in your protest, brother as a bonafide member of the Protestant faith and a former papist, who almost became a priest. We are Protestants because we protest anything which opposes the gospel, whether it be Romanism, Arminianism, free-willism, liberalism, or secularism.

No I haven't been enthralled with his movements, but I am finding some of his activities interesting in terms of World Events.

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How often have you wondered why Christ should set His heart upon such a one as you! --Octavius Winslow

Lon Wadkins (Jesup, Iowa)
New Covenant Fellowship, OPC
Independence, Iowa

Why would I? Personally, he's just another man walking around.

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JC
URCNA
PA

"Forgiveness is primarily for our own sake, so that we no longer carry the burden of resentment. But to forgive does not mean we will allow injustice again." --Jack Kornfield

If this man had the power he would kill you and your family and burn your house down on top of you. Never forget it.

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Psa 55:16 As for me, I will call upon God; and the LORD shall save me.
Psa 55:17 Evening, and morning, and at noon, will I pray, and cry aloud: and he shall hear my voice.
James Farley, Wilderness Road Baptist Assembly.
Husband of Melissa and father of Ann.
www.wildernessroadbaptist.org

Exactly - though he's a man walking around making an audacious and blasphemous claim and conducting idolatrous ceremonies.

But given that he's merely a man, I agree with Colleen that there's no particular reason to pay any attention to his activities... just a waste of time in my opinion - I've got much more edifying and useful things to do.

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Todd K. Pedlar
member, First Congregational Church, (CCCC) Cresco, IA
http://semperubi.rtrc.net

"Many men, after a long conversion, see more of the workings of sin in their hearts than ever they did before or at their first conversion. Now, such men have not an increase of sin, but an increase of illumination and light" (Christopher Love)

LadyFlynt;

That's my view as well, the problem is, many people are following after him as if he were god...
(I don't even know if that is the right word to describe it),

May God have mercy on them and give them eyes to see and ears to hear...

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Bobbi Clark
Covenant Member
Pinewood Pres. (PCA) Middleburg

When I kept Silent, My bones wasted away through my groaning all day long. Psalm 32:3

“If any one shall deny that the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and therefore entire Christ, are truly, really, and substantially contained in the sacrament of the most holy Eucharist; and shall say that He is only in it as a sign, or in a figure, or virtually--let him be accursed” (Canon 1).

“If any one shall say that the substance of the bread and wine remains in the sacrament of the most holy Eucharist, together with the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, and shall deny that wonderful and singular conversion of the whole substance of the bread into the body, and of the whole substance of the wine into the blood, the outward forms of the bread and wine still remaining, which conversion the Catholic Church most aptly calls transubstantiation--let him be accursed” (Canon 2).

“If any man shall say that Christ, the only begotten Son of God, is not to be adored in the holy sacrament of the Eucharist, even with the open worship of latria, and therefore not to be venerated with any peculiar festal celebrity, nor to be solemnly carried about in processions according to the praiseworthy, and universal rites and customs of the holy Church, and that he is not to be publicly set before the people to be adored, and that his adorers are idolaters--let him be accursed” (Canon 6).

“If anyone shall say that the ungodly man is justified by faith only so as to understand that nothing else is required that may cooperate to obtain the grace of justification, and that it is in no wise necessary for him to be prepared and disposed by the motion of his own will ... let him be accursed” (Canon 9).

“If anyone shall say that justifying faith is nothing else than confidence in the divine mercy pardoning sins for Christ's sake, or that it is that confidence alone by which we are justified ... let him be accursed” (Canon 12).

This is a good reminder. Notwithstanding the lame and obfuscating so-called apology of Pope John Paul II on August 23, 1997, we should never forget, among other things, the St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre, and the Pope's response:

The Massacre:



The medals struck by Pope Gregory XIII to commemorate the Massacre:



I wish I could forget he was here...but DC is going crazy....half of the city is bowing before him like a god, the other half is cursing him for totally disrupting traffic in an already chaotic city.

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Andrew Myers
Husband of Jessica, Father of Jackson, Katie and Samuel
Member, Presbyterian Reformed Church of Northern Virginia
Warrenton, VA USA
Editor, The Matthew Poole Project

"On land, at sea, at home, abroad, / I smoke my pipe and worship God." -- J.S. Bach

I think that's a perfect word to describe it. They follow after him as though he were God because to them he is - he's their ticket. As long as you do what he says, you'll be "on the winning team".

Heck, probably they get a free pass out of a few million years in purgatory by touching his robe or shaking his hand.

Yes, they DO follow him like he was God... because to them he IS Christ on Earth.

toddpedlar;

Oh that we follow after Christ the way these men follow after this man...that we may cling to Christ's every word that is our food and our provision forever and ever...God forgive us the areas that we don't, change us to follow You in the same way in every aspect of our lives..

I guess I never quite thought about it that way before, but you're right.

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Ivan Schoen, Pastor
Maranatha Baptist Church
Poplar Grove, Illinois USA
http://maranatha-sbc.org/
Husband to Nancy
Father to Sherril, Sarah, Kathryn
Grandfather to Phillip
Faith is the refusal to panic. Martyn Lloyd-Jones

I almost forgot. I had dinner with BAWB last evening and he never even mentioned the Pope. I thought they were pretty tight. In fact, I'm surprised that the two of them aren't getting together for a beer.

I don't know if this is in bad taste or not but I don't think anyone here will be offended:


I have watched some of it just because I am not that familiar with the Catholic way of doing things. The people I work with who were raised Catholic pretty much hate the church and God and blaspheme when given the chance.

P.S. Does watching the Pope on T.V. grant one several thousand years of indulgence toward getting out of purgatory?

You missed a previous post Ivan.

It was a discussion of whether or not the Pope is the antichrist. I responded - Seeing you and the Pope in the same evening was almost heaven on earth. By the time I got home the Popatron was all set up in the family room and my son was showing Joseph his Transformer collection. I still had room for the KFC hotwings he brought with him.

We played some Wii bowling and tennins and then we discovered that we could watch YouTube videos on the Wii. We watched all of the Marx Brother's 'Duck Soup'. We laughed like Purgatory!

He asked if he could borrow my copies of Turretin's Institutes (don't tell anyone) and we finished off our third Franzie, embraced and he left about 9:30.

He mentioned the PB and commented how we are all involved in the same task of trying to police the church and maintain a pure doctrine. He said he liked it better back when everyone thought Henry Kissenger was the antichrist.

I'll try to post the Mii he created on the Wii if I can figure out how to upload it.

Earlier in the evening Ivan and I met at Applebee's we had steaks, garlic mash potatos and 23 ounces of Sam Adams between us. (Ok, Ivan drank iced tea only, the rest was mine - he had to go lead Bible study.)

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That picture is a sad sight.

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Daniel Ritchie
Saintfield, Northern Ireland - Queen's University, Belfast:History/Politics
Member of Dromara Reformed Presbyterian Church of Ireland (Covenanter)

It's a GREAT picture Daniel. Here's why.

It says - "Hey YOU with the funny hat! See these guys with funny hats. These are actors pretending they are revolutionary guards. We had to get actors to pretend because we kicked the butts of the real ones back to their little island. Yeah, a bunch of farmers got tired of a despot trying to dictate from across the BIG LAKE! So stay in your place and we'll let you wear your funny hat in America. Get out of line and we're going to go 1776 all over your papal rump!"

(Sorry to my brothers from Britain, my ancestors were Acadians. I'm still a tad bitter.)

No need to apologize to me; I supported the colonies (hypothetically speaking of course, I was not born in 1776).

Just a question: why is this thread in the worship forum?