Thread: Covenant Theology IS Reformed Theology

Covenant Theology IS Reformed Theology « Creed or Chaos

Here is a MUST read book on Covenant Theology, this is where it came from. My whole denomination (RCUS) can't stop talking about this book.


Amazon.com: Fountainhead of Federalism: Heinrich Bullinger and the Covenantal Tradition: Charles S. McCoy,J. Wayne Baker,Heinrich Bullinger: Books

I am going to have to check that out SolaGratia...

Baker's "Two-Streams" theory and McCoy's interpretation of federalism have been seriously challenged. FWIW, I do not recommend this volume as a sound introduction to the history of covenant theology.

Cornel Venema has provided a much sounder interpretation of Bullinger and Van Asselt has provided the definitive work on Cocceius (C. McCoy's entry point into federalism). The English transl. of Bullinger at the end is the most useful thing about the book.

could someone direct me to a good intro as to "What is federalist theology" (Please no wikepedia- that is blocked by BJU) Thanks!

Originally Posted by R. Scott Clark

of Bullinger at the end is the most useful thing about the book.

That is the reason. We at church only went through the last chapter which is from Bullinger.

Originally Posted by SolaGratia

Originally Posted by R. Scott Clark

of Bullinger at the end is the most useful thing about the book.

That is the reason. We at church only went through the last chapter which is from Bullinger.

Is this from his Decades, or is it a stand-alone treatise?

Originally Posted by CaseyBessette

Originally Posted by SolaGratia

Originally Posted by R. Scott Clark

of Bullinger at the end is the most useful thing about the book.

That is the reason. We at church only went through the last chapter which is from Bullinger.

Is this from his Decades, or is it a stand-alone treatise?

It's a stand-alone, said to be "the first book devoted to the subject of the covenant in 1500 years of the Christian church" (Angus Stewart): A Brief Exposition of the One and Eternal Testament or Covenant of God (1534, actually completed in November 1533).

Originally Posted by VirginiaHuguenot

It's a stand-alone, said to be "the first book devoted to the subject of the covenant in 1500 years of the Christian church" (Angus Stewart): A Brief Exposition of the One and Eternal Testament or Covenant of God (1534, actually completed in November 1533).

Is this book then the only place where an English translation is available?

Originally Posted by CaseyBessette

Originally Posted by VirginiaHuguenot

It's a stand-alone, said to be "the first book devoted to the subject of the covenant in 1500 years of the Christian church" (Angus Stewart): A Brief Exposition of the One and Eternal Testament or Covenant of God (1534, actually completed in November 1533).

Is this book then the only place where an English translation is available?

As far as I know, yes. For a study of the background of Bullinger's treatise, see J. Wayne Baker, "Church, State, and Dissent: The Crisis of the Swiss Reformation, 1531-1536," Church History 57 (1988): 135-152.

Originally Posted by R. Scott Clark

Cornel Venema has provided a much sounder interpretation of Bullinger and Van Asselt has provided the definitive work on Cocceius (C. McCoy's entry point into federalism). The English transl. of Bullinger at the end is the most useful thing about the book.

Could someone provide the information on this Venema book? I'd like to read the Bullinger material.

Heinrich Bullinger and the Doctrine of Predestination

Originally Posted by R. Scott Clark

Baker's "Two-Streams" theory and McCoy's interpretation of federalism have been seriously challenged. FWIW, I do not recommend this volume as a sound introduction to the history of covenant theology.

Cornel Venema has provided a much sounder interpretation of Bullinger and Van Asselt has provided the definitive work on Cocceius (C. McCoy's entry point into federalism). The English transl. of Bullinger at the end is the most useful thing about the book.

Boy - Venema's affordable, but the Van Asselt book (at Amazon at least) is going to cost a pretty penny! (18,000 of them, plus shipping!)

Originally Posted by Philip A

Heinrich Bullinger and the Doctrine of Predestination

Thank you Philip

Originally Posted by ModernPuritan?

could someone direct me to a good intro as to "What is federalist theology" (Please no wikepedia- that is blocked by BJU) Thanks!

Westminster Seminary California clark

Under CLASSICAL COVENANT THEOLOGY

Full of Nice Quotes, WOW!

Van Asselt's book is brilliant. You could get it via ILL at your local library. I recommend it highly. I think it's worth every penny.

Originally Posted by toddpedlar

Originally Posted by R. Scott Clark

Baker's "Two-Streams" theory and McCoy's interpretation of federalism have been seriously challenged. FWIW, I do not recommend this volume as a sound introduction to the history of covenant theology.

Cornel Venema has provided a much sounder interpretation of Bullinger and Van Asselt has provided the definitive work on Cocceius (C. McCoy's entry point into federalism). The English transl. of Bullinger at the end is the most useful thing about the book.

Boy - Venema's affordable, but the Van Asselt book (at Amazon at least) is going to cost a pretty penny! (18,000 of them, plus shipping!)

Originally Posted by R. Scott Clark

Van Asselt's book is brilliant. You could get it via ILL at your local library. I recommend it highly. I think it's worth every penny.

Of that I'm certain.... just don't have so many at the moment,
and I couldn't drop everything else for the 3 week ILL period to
finish off that book - not now anyway. I'm still reading YOURS on
Olevianus (for which I am thankful for your efforts)

Originally Posted by toddpedlar

Originally Posted by R. Scott Clark

Baker's "Two-Streams" theory and McCoy's interpretation of federalism have been seriously challenged. FWIW, I do not recommend this volume as a sound introduction to the history of covenant theology.

Cornel Venema has provided a much sounder interpretation of Bullinger and Van Asselt has provided the definitive work on Cocceius (C. McCoy's entry point into federalism). The English transl. of Bullinger at the end is the most useful thing about the book.

Boy - Venema's affordable, but the Van Asselt book (at Amazon at least) is going to cost a pretty penny! (18,000 of them, plus shipping!)

There are cheaper copies of Van Asselt's book to be found at Bookfinder.com.

It is also available online at Google Books for limited preview:

The Federal Theology of Johannes ... - Google Book Search

Likewise, McCoy/Baker:

Fountainhead of Federalism: Heinrich ... - Google Book Search

FWIW, There was another thread recently where I recommended a few books on federal/covenant theology:

CT books please

Originally Posted by ModernPuritan?

could someone direct me to a good intro as to "What is federalist theology" (Please no wikepedia- that is blocked by BJU) Thanks!

Wikipedia is blocked by BJU (which I'm assuming is Bob Jones University)?!?!?!? How in the world do they justify that?

(and, as a side note: why haven't they blocked the PB? Don't they know it's filled with Calvinistic Dogma?!?!?)

Wikipedia can show girly pictures if one isn't careful.

Originally Posted by Ivanhoe

Wikipedia can show girly pictures if one isn't careful.

Wha? I must be too innocent as I have never seen anything like that on Wikipedia.

Still a pretty lame reason to block it, if you ask me (one can find inappropriate content just about anywhere if you're not careful).

Originally Posted by toddpedlar

Originally Posted by R. Scott Clark

Van Asselt's book is brilliant. You could get it via ILL at your local library. I recommend it highly. I think it's worth every penny.

Of that I'm certain.... just don't have so many at the moment,
and I couldn't drop everything else for the 3 week ILL period to
finish off that book - not now anyway. I'm still reading YOURS on
Olevianus (for which I am thankful for your efforts)

Hey, I knew someone was reading it, I just didn't know who it was!