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Old 08-24-2009, 10:13 AM
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WSC Q: 22 - a "reasonable" soul?

What does it mean in the Westminster Shorter Catechism question 22 when it says "reasonable"?

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How did Christ, being the Son of God, become man?

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Christ, the Son of God, became man, by taking to himself a true body and a reasonable soul, being conceived by the power of the Holy Ghost in the womb of the virgin Mary, and born of her, yet without sin.
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Logical, I assume.
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Hello Jason! I believe that it basically means that just as we have a soul, Christ had a human soul. I think it was a reaction to the views of some in the early church who affirmed that Christ had a "true body," but not a "reasonable (human) soul."

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This is classic, catholic, and creedal language from the Definition of Chaldecon, where the teaching of Apollinarius was rejected. Basically, Apollinarius taught a tri-partite view of Christ, with a body, a lower "animal" soul, and the Word as the higher soul. Our father rejected this, stating Christ was truly human, meaning, he had a true body and "rational/reasonable" (not "animal") soul.
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So I was close, but not nearly as helpful and detailed as Rev. Hyde!
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So I was close, but not nearly as helpful and detailed as Rev. Hyde!
Yeah, you were really, really close on that one.
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So I was close, but not nearly as helpful and detailed as Rev. Hyde!
Yeah, you were really, really close on that one.
Well, I said "logical" in the sense that it means "rational," as Rev. Hyde put it. I just didn't know the background that would cause them to put it in there. I was reminded of Romans 12 when the Scriptures say "which is your reasonable service."
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aw, thanks much for the quick clarification!
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I always thought it meant a rational soul as opposed to an animal soul, but I didn't know the history behind why it would be necessary to specify that with regards to Christ. Thanks, Rev. Hyde.
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