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    LBC1689 with updated language

    Is anyone using a LBC1689 with updated language? If so, has it been checked thoroughly to see if it rings true to the original? Is it in print or a free download? I'm curious because I have a download, but have no knowledge of the revisor and the group he is with. I don't want to use something that was biased or intentionally modified.
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    Here are a couple of efforts.

    Founders Ministries | A Faith to Confess: The 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith

    Modern 1689 Confession

    The second link has a Word.doc to the right that can be downloaded. One of the other links there appears to be broken.

    Enjoy!
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    I believe that's what Dr. James White quoted from in Debating Calvinism when he quoted the confession, but I don't have the book (borrowed it from church library).
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    Carey Publications' A Faith to Confess: The Baptist Confession of Faith of 1689, Rewritten in Modern English is very trustworthy. The revision was done by S.M. Houghton, who edited for, and published a couple of books with, the Banner of Truth Trust.
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    If you linked to the one I listed in the baptist forum http://www.puritanboard.com/f113/ple...-1689-a-50535/ it was done by an Elder in a Reformed Baptist Church in Alabama. He is looking for a critique and recommendations. He is also the moderator of the RBLISTthat use to be linked to the Founders Ministry, if I am not mistaken.

    Here is the Carey Publications one that was put into modern English in 1975.
    Founders Ministries | A Faith to Confess: The 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith

    You might also find this interesting. It is a comparative of the Confessions.
    Tabular Comparison of 1646 WCF, 1658 Savoy Declaration, the 1677/1689 LBCF, and the 1742 PCF

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    I use the original text
    see here The BCF Assistant - Table of Contents

    You can download it as a program here A Reformed Baptist's Disk

    What I've done is copied the text, formatted it in a Word.doc, printed it out "booklet" style, punched it and placed it in my Levenger Circa notebook (junior size) - very handy
    Did the same with our two Particular Baptist Catechisms
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    Quote Originally Posted by PuritanCovenanter View Post
    If you linked to the one I listed in the baptist forum http://www.puritanboard.com/f113/ple...-1689-a-50535/ it was done by an Elder in a Reformed Baptist Church in Alabama. He is looking for a critique and recommendations. He is also the moderator of the RBLISTthat use to be linked to the Founders Ministry, if I am not mistaken.

    Here is the Carey Publications one that was put into modern English in 1975.
    Founders Ministries | A Faith to Confess: The 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith

    You might also find this interesting. It is a comparative of the Confessions.
    Tabular Comparison of 1646 WCF, 1658 Savoy Declaration, the 1677/1689 LBCF, and the 1742 PCF
    There is a Baptist Forum here??
    I've been using that modern English one at Founders. It's been easy to use, for me, which is great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wannabee View Post
    Here are a couple of efforts.

    Founders Ministries | A Faith to Confess: The 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith

    Modern 1689 Confession

    The second link has a Word.doc to the right that can be downloaded. One of the other links there appears to be broken.

    Enjoy!
    The First link from Founder's Ministries produces a very nice modern translation (1975 Carey Publications ed.),Check it out it's worth considering!
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    Quote Originally Posted by eqdj View Post
    Rich,

    I use the original text
    see here The BCF Assistant - Table of Contents

    You can download it as a program here A Reformed Baptist's Disk

    What I've done is copied the text, formatted it in a Word.doc, printed it out "booklet" style, punched it and placed it in my Levenger Circa notebook (junior size) - very handy
    Did the same with our two Particular Baptist Catechisms
    I'm going to do the second download. Hopefully its PDF so it's Mac friendly, the window looks like a PC page.

    -----Added 7/30/2009 at 10:36:28 EST-----

    Founders looks like a potential for ordering a hardcopy. The downloads are chapter by chapter, so it would take a while to compile the freeware sites.
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    Keep in mind that the Carey version is copyrighted.
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    I've already compiled everything from the Reformed Baptist's Disk into one document, see here
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    Quote Originally Posted by eqdj View Post
    Rich,

    I've already compiled everything from the Reformed Baptist's Disk into one document, see here
    Particular Baptist Readings Th'eternal Promise
    I downloaded it (Ref B disc) and found out it is formatted for Windows. Oh well.

    -----Added 7/30/2009 at 04:52:15 EST-----

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    Keep in mind that the Carey version is copyrighted.
    I only knock off freeware or shareware. The only copyrighted stuff I ever knocked off was after asking permission & getting it to make a copy for the entire elder board on a 6DVD series about the NAR. I even deleted the stuff covered under the CCLI agreement from our former congregation when we left. I agree with you that the Jolly Roger should not fly over any Christian computers.
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    I found one under a Creative Commons license. Anyone familiar with the restrictions on that ?
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