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Heidelberg Catechism in German and Latin

Does anyone know whether copies of the Heidelberg Catechism in the original Latin and German editions are available online?
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I found it in German. How about in Latin?
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The definitive critical edition of the Three Forms of Unity (including the Heidelberg Catechism) is still J.N. Bakhuizen Van Den Brink's De Nederlandse Belijdenisgeschriften. The Catechism is there in the original German, Latin and Dutch, along with critical notes. A little bit of Dutch knowledge is handy to make maximum use of it, but it's not absolutely necessary.

Unfortunately, it's not available online and it's hard to find in hard copy too, being out of print since 1976.
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I found it in German. How about in Latin?
Where did you find the German version, please?
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I found it in German. How about in Latin?
Where did you find the German version, please?
If you search for "Heidelberger Katechismus" at Google.de you will get good results. Some will contain the older German. However, a version with more modern German is available here.
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I looked hard for the 1863 triglot tercentenary edition (German, Latin, English, with introduction by John W. Nevin) online but to no avail. Schaff has the German and English editions side by side in Creeds of Christendom, Vol. III. (see here).
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I looked hard for the 1863 triglot tercentenary edition (German, Latin, English, with introduction by John W. Nevin) online but to no avail. Schaff has the German and English editions side by side in Creeds of Christendom, Vol. III. (see here).
If you can't find it then I despair.

Why did Schaff not include the Latin edition?!
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I found it in German. How about in Latin?
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If you search for "Heidelberger Katechismus" at Google.de you will get good results. Some will contain the older German. However, a version with more modern German is available here.
That is a nice website. Thank you, Brother.
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Where did you find the German version, please?
If you search for "Heidelberger Katechismus" at Google.de you will get good results. Some will contain the older German. However, a version with more modern German is available here.
That is a nice website. Thank you, Brother.
You're welcome!
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I looked hard for the 1863 triglot tercentenary edition (German, Latin, English, with introduction by John W. Nevin) online but to no avail. Schaff has the German and English editions side by side in Creeds of Christendom, Vol. III. (see here).
If you can't find it then I despair.

Why did Schaff not include the Latin edition?!
Abebooks has a $70 copy. Seems steep for a "mostly good" copy with some soiled pages.
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This is not in German or Latin, but the website is awesome for those of us that proficient in Dutch and wish to study the Three Forms in Dutch.

Wat de betekenis is van ons Geloof
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This is not in German or Latin, but the website is awesome for those of us that proficient in Dutch and wish to study the Three Forms in Dutch.

Wat de betekenis is van ons Geloof
Wat? Spreekt u nederlands of iets?
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I found H.A. Niemeyer's Collectio confessionum in Ecclesiis reformatis publicatarum (1840) online which includes the German edition (p. 390ff) and Latin edition (p. 428ff) of the Heidelberg Catechism, which may be of interest.

See here.

Also, for good measure (although a poor edition) and for reference purposes, his appendix, published 9 months later, which includes the Westminster Standards in Latin (see here).
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I found H.A. Niemeyer's Collectio confessionum in Ecclesiis reformatis publicatarum (1840) online which includes the German edition (p. 390ff) and Latin edition (p. 428ff) of the Heidelberg Catechism, which may be of interest.

See here.

Also, for good measure (although a poor edition) and for reference purposes, his appendix, published 9 months later, which includes the Westminster Standards in Latin (see here).
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This is not in German or Latin, but the website is awesome for those of us that proficient in Dutch and wish to study the Three Forms in Dutch.

Wat de betekenis is van ons Geloof
Wat? Spreekt u nederlands of iets?
Ja, Ik spreek en beetje nederlands en U kan "jij" met mij schrijven.
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I found H.A. Niemeyer's Collectio confessionum in Ecclesiis reformatis publicatarum (1840) online which includes the German edition (p. 390ff) and Latin edition (p. 428ff) of the Heidelberg Catechism, which may be of interest.

See here.

Also, for good measure (although a poor edition) and for reference purposes, his appendix, published 9 months later, which includes the Westminster Standards in Latin (see here).
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I am saddened no one would ask the "token German" on PB...

Okay, here's the link to the Van den Brink edition (German, Latin, Dutch). Hope this wets your appetite, Davidus!
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Thanks, Sebastian! Is there a way to add the key for the critical apparatus? I can give it here (in English), but for future reference it might be handy to append it to that document (assuming you're responsible for it).

First column: Textus receptus from the Church Order of the Palatinate, November 15, 1563. Notes: first edition, January 1563 (A).

Second column: Latin text, Heidelberg 1563. Notes: text from Ursinus (U); from Jacobus Revius 1627 (R).

Third Column: Dutch text according to that found in the Book of Confessions, Middelburg 1611. Notes: Emden edition 1563 (E); translation of Petrus Dathenus, 1563 (D); mixed text, Emden 1565 (G); text from C. van der Heyden, 1580 (H), reprinting of van der Heyden, 1591 (H2), Cloppenburg edition, 1639 (C).
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