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12-20-2006, 09:38 PM
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It seems as though outsiders (non-members) have been continually coming on the Puritanboard and although they aren't members they are able to view every thread (especially in the theology forums). Many of these people have used this 'privilege' to bring condemnation to the board on particular blogs or used it to incriminate others, etc.
Although it is not my board and I respect the decision of the Admins, I think it would be better if maybe only a few sections of the Puritanboard were open to publick viewing while most others were left to only members.
Maybe suggestions of those forums for Public viewing (for advertising or whatever) would be:
The Information and Welcome Section
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Others seem like they could cause more controversy to the outside publick.
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12-20-2006, 09:50 PM
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Sounds like a great idea to me. A board where disagreements are visible between members promotes a non-unified front and message.
Then again, with 12 posts, my opinion may not be as valued as that of other members of the board | 
12-20-2006, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Exagorazo Then again, with 12 posts, my opinion may not be as valued as that of other members of the board  | With an avatar like that, though, who can disagree??
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12-20-2006, 10:13 PM
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I don't know. Maybe if folks who are in here remembered their stuff is wide open to the world, they might restrain themselves a little, so as not to heap oprobrium on themselves and the rest of us.
We are just a little slice of Christianity here, friends. We might as well look in the mirror. I'm happy to know people elsewhere are commenting; I'm even more happy knowing that their negativity is publicized here. Since they aren't members, its not as though they can drop a PM to somebody to tell him to "check yourself." Of course, I'd rather we were being praised...
And who knows, maybe the criticism says more about them than us, in certain instances. But sometimes, it will be deserved.
No, we are not going 100% private on this board. That's not why it exists. Its public for a reason. We want browsers and lurkers. Only a handful of fora are private, members only. Go private if you (whomever) want to be ugly.
There's also a reason I put the Burns quote in my signature a loooooooooooong time ago, to try to remind people--including myself--all the time of their witness.
Merry Christmas, ya'll. Peace.
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12-20-2006, 10:16 PM
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This is another person (like Michael Dries) who refuses to give a name. Evidently this person was not a lurker, but an erstwhile member. No real name, no real photo. This isn't a member of the general public who is picking on us, this is a disgruntled ex-member. Going private wouldn't have helped.
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12-20-2006, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NaphtaliPress | Um, Yes like that or like this. I wasn't talking necessarily about our 'quibbles' but more about our theology, where other 'presbyterians' who are not allowed here have problems and blog against such things.
But concerning our 'quibbles' it would be also smart to guard against publicizing that also.
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12-20-2006, 11:50 PM
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Don't you just love free publicity? | 
12-21-2006, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Romans922 Um, Yes like that or like this. I wasn't talking necessarily about our 'quibbles' but more about our theology, where other 'presbyterians' who are not allowed here have problems and blog against such things.
But concerning our 'quibbles' it would be also smart to guard against publicizing that also. | How do you even find a blog like that? Really, the reason I ask is that the blog you cited probably has a normal readership of 1 person like most blogs do.
I really don't mind it if those who disagree with the historic Reformed position blog against us. In fact, everytime they do they make it more likely that those searching for Reformed theology will find this board.
As for people writing bad things because we deserve it - so be it.
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12-21-2006, 02:15 AM
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i grew up in one of these churches, 6 months or so after i became a believer, i went back to that church to ask the sen. pastor why christ wasnt preached....his answer was, that "its'(salvation) is not a popular issue"
i went to the jr. pastor, asked the same Q, his response was "christ is not the only way to heaven" i told my mom this, she told her deacon-ette friend, and the church fired the jr. pastor....this was in the summer of '81
my view is, that youre either reformed, or deformed.
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12-21-2006, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Romans922 It seems as though outsiders (non-members) have been continually coming on the Puritanboard and although they aren't members they are able to view every thread (especially in the theology forums). Many of these people have used this 'privilege' to bring condemnation to the board on particular blogs or used it to incriminate others, etc.
Although it is not my board and I respect the decision of the Admins, I think it would be better if maybe only a few sections of the Puritanboard were open to publick viewing while most others were left to only members.
Maybe suggestions of those forums for Public viewing (for advertising or whatever) would be:
The Information and Welcome Section
Educational Forums
General Forums
Others seem like they could cause more controversy to the outside publick. | Personally, it is not offensive to me to find that an acknowledged Fed Vis proponent or someone who remains in an apostate setting like the PCUSA, admitting openly that the setting is apostate, is upset w/ us for planting our flag; Gods truth cuts deep, even to bone and marrow........
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12-21-2006, 05:19 PM
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Hmm, I note that at present there are 17 guests who are currently reading the thread on Steve Wilkins' Presbytery Examination and Response.
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12-21-2006, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by VirginiaHuguenot Hmm, I note that at present there are 17 guests who are currently reading the thread on Steve Wilkins' Presbytery Examination and Response.  | Thats actually pretty scary! The Fed Vis mafia is after us! | 
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I love the "Who's Online" feature! I think we should check it often, it reminds us that we are on a public forum.
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I've got no problem with this. I don't read blogs. Simple as that. Do I have to go around navigating to hundreds, thousands, and hundreds of thousands of blogs? Or do I subscribe to one forum board? I prefer the latter. The I-net is unregulated, and any regulation produces ten to a hundred new ways around it. So I like a regulated Board. I might not like the ultra -isms, but that's another quibble.
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12-22-2006, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by VirginiaHuguenot Hmm, I note that at present there are 17 guests who are currently reading the thread on Steve Wilkins' Presbytery Examination and Response.  | Just took a look at it myself. VERY scarey stuff.
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12-22-2006, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Staphlobob Just took a look at it myself. VERY scarey stuff. | I figure it this way...we shouldn't be afraid to call a spade a spade. Let them read...we occasionally read them (and laugh...sometimes it sounds like 3rd grade..."he booted me, I'm not listing him or recommending him anymore" "me neither because he booted you"). Aiaiaiai!
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12-22-2006, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnV I've got no problem with this. I don't read blogs. Simple as that. Do I have to go around navigating to hundreds, thousands, and hundreds of thousands of blogs? Or do I subscribe to one forum board? I prefer the latter. The I-net is unregulated, and any regulation produces ten to a hundred new ways around it. So I like a regulated Board. I might not like the ultra -isms, but that's another quibble. | You don't read blogs? Man, you've hurt my feelings!
No Christmas card for you this year, bub.
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12-22-2006, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LadyFlynt I figure it this way...we shouldn't be afraid to call a spade a spade. Let them read...we occasionally read them (and laugh...sometimes it sounds like 3rd grade..."he booted me, I'm not listing him or recommending him anymore" "me neither because he booted you"). Aiaiaiai! | I agree. Let the visitors, lurkers, etc., read whatever they want (except for the two personal forums for the men and women, of course). This board is a great way to publicize Reformed Christianity on the internet. The fact that there isn't total uniformity of opinion and/or interpretation on various points is a good thing! It shows that we are thinking Christians, not just mindless robots as Christians are so often portrayed in the mainstream media.
The key, as someone has already said, is to remind yourself that whatever you post is out there for all the world, literally, to see. If you wouldn't say it to your grandmother (or your bartender), don't post it.
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12-22-2006, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bookslover I agree. Let the visitors, lurkers, etc., read whatever they want (except for the two personal forums for the men and women, of course). This board is a great way to publicize Reformed Christianity on the internet. The fact that there isn't total uniformity of opinion and/or interpretation on various points is a good thing! It shows that we are thinking Christians, not just mindless robots as Christians are so often portrayed in the mainstream media.
The key, as someone has already said, is to remind yourself that whatever you post is out there for all the world, literally, to see. If you wouldn't say it to your grandmother (or your bartender), don't post it. | Yes we should be sensitive to the fact of others lurking here. But on the flip side the people here are who they are and if someone doesn't like what they say it's kind of like TV, they can change the channel. One doesn't have to lurk here. I myself don't agree with everything that's posted here and I'm free to disagree in that case. I don't have to post if I don't want and I don't have to read a post if I don't want. It's one of the good things about the information superhighway, freedom.
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12-22-2006, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MrMerlin777 Yes we should be sensitive to the fact of others lurking here. But on the flip side the people here are who they are and if someone doesn't like what they say it's kind of like TV, they can change the channel. One doesn't have to lurk here. I myself don't agree with everything that's posted here and I'm free to disagree in that case. I don't have to post if I don't want and I don't have to read a post if I don't want. It's one of the good things about the information superhighway, freedom.  |
Well said!
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Originally Posted by bookslover Well said! | Cheers,  thanks
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Since I'm chief of sinners here, let me say that I do write with the public in mind. I get frequent posts off list about the things I write and so I am reminded that lots of folk read this board beyond subscribers. When I sin (and I do frequently!) I am quite willing to be confronted with it and to be given an opportunity to repent. I make no pretense to having achieved some extraordinary degree of sanctity.
Presently the FV folk are in a lather about my use of the rope metaphor.
Let me try again to clear up misrepresentations. No, the metaphor doesn't imply anything about the work of the FV/NPP committee - as I know nothing about the workings of the committee.
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