Not Allowed to Teach Anymore - Page 2

Davidius · #41 (**permalink**) 05-31-2007, 11:51 PM

There's a Reformed Baptist church in Mebane but it may be a bit of a drive for you.

Aside from the Free Presbyterian Church there is also a PCA church in Winston Salem which Scott Roper from the board (sroper) attends. Perhaps he could help you out. And if you want to drive to Burlington you are always welcome to ride the rest of the way with me to Durham.

KMK · #42 (**permalink**) 06-01-2007, 11:53 AM

Most people here on PB have had similar testimonies, I'm sure. The DoG hit you like lightening and you want to tell everyone and no one wants to hear it!

Here's a question for everyone: Is the unity of a church that stands against and teaches against the sovereignty of God worth protecting?

shackleton · #43 (**permalink**) 06-01-2007, 01:03 PM

I had a similiar experience. I was attending a Independent Baptist Church when I became aware of the DoG. I talked to the pastor about it and he had a violent reaction and told me I would not be allowed to teach in his church. I responded by giving him a list of bible verses proving Total Depravity and Election. This only culminated in him doing a 6-week series on why Calvinism is a heresy and a black eye to God's name. So I gave up and my wife and I left.

People cannot usually be convinced of your point of view due to years of hearing about the evils of Calvinism. You might just have to shake the dust off your heals and go elsewhere.

A5pointer · #44 (**permalink**) 06-01-2007, 01:09 PM

Same thing happened to me, banned from teaching. It is probably a loosing battle for you. Get somewhere where your gift can be used.

Anton Bruckner · #45 (**permalink**) 06-01-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Papamarc

I have talked to the pastor and we are on different ends of the spectrum on this. He is a typical SBC 4 point Arminian.

you've answered your question.

panta dokimazete · #46 (**permalink**) 06-01-2007, 03:06 PM

Make him walk you out the door!

Quote:

Acts 16

35But when it was day, the magistrates sent the police, saying, "Let those men go." 36And the jailer reported these words to Paul, saying, "The magistrates have sent to let you go. Therefore come out now and go in peace." 37But Paul said to them, "They have beaten us publicly, uncondemned, men who are Roman citizens, and have thrown us into prison; and do they now throw us out secretly? No! Let them come themselves and take us out." 38The police reported these words to the magistrates, and they were afraid when they heard that they were Roman citizens. 39So they came and apologized to them. And they took them out and asked them to leave the city. 40So they went out of the prison and visited Lydia. And when they had seen the brothers, they encouraged them and departed.

If it was appropriate for Paul to stand on principle on simple citizenship...

puritan lad · #47 (**permalink**) 06-01-2007, 04:38 PM

PapaMarc

I can relate, coming from the Assemblies of God myself. I would look for a new church, as has been the consensus on this board.

As far as being "divisive", I'll leave you with this quote from J.C. Ryle.

"Divisions and separations are most objectionable in religion. They weaken the cause of true Christianity ...But before we blame people for them, we must be careful that we lay the blame where it is deserved. False doctrine and heresy are even worse than schism. If people separate themselves from teaching that is positively false and unscriptural, they ought to be praised rather than reproved. In such cases separation is a virtue and not a sin."

Divisiveness isn't always a bad thing.

LAYMAN JOE · #48 (**permalink**) 06-01-2007, 05:12 PM

Papamarc,

A member of the church I am attending is from Winston Salem. Its an hour and a half drive but well worth it. Come and visit. I believe several people from the PB will be there this week.

KMK · #49 (**permalink**) 06-01-2007, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puritan lad

PapaMarc

I can relate, coming from the Assemblies of God myself. I would look for a new church, as has been the consensus on this board.

As far as being "divisive", I'll leave you with this quote from J.C. Ryle.

"Divisions and separations are most objectionable in religion. They weaken the cause of true Christianity ...But before we blame people for them, we must be careful that we lay the blame where it is deserved. False doctrine and heresy are even worse than schism. If people separate themselves from teaching that is positively false and unscriptural, they ought to be praised rather than reproved. In such cases separation is a virtue and not a sin."

Divisiveness isn't always a bad thing.

Good one, Scott! Where did you dig up that awesome quote?

Papamarc · #50 (**permalink**) 06-01-2007, 09:54 PM

Thanks once again for all of the Godly advice and invitations to different churches! We are going to start visiting churches next week, I don't know but I think this feels like a divorce might feel, it is very painful.

Then they left the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer dishonor for the name. And every day, in the temple and from house to house, they did not cease teaching and preaching Jesus as the Christ. Acts 5:41-42

After reading this passage the other day I decided to keep leading the college group anyway in my home instead of church and told them it was not church related. I heard today that the Assoc Pastor said I was not being submissive to the churches directions. I might be the first ever church discipline candidate, who knows.