WHAT'S WITH ALL THESE IMMODEST PICS!!!??? I can see their eye-lashes!

Cheers,

Adam

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Adam Brink, Grace Church of Pleasanton, PCA, Pleasanton, California
"Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth?" Romans 8:33

How about this one

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Nikki Edmond
New Beginnings Believers Bible Fellowship (Family's Church), Non-Denom
Los Angeles, CA
www.haveatulip.com - Chat Room for Reformed Believers
Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction.

You can read Early Church Father Tertullian on that one......


"Let them know that the whole head constitutes "the woman." Its limits and boundaries reach as far as the place where the robe begins. The region of the veil is co-extensive with the space covered by the hair when unbound; in order that the necks too may be encircled. For it is they which must be subjected, for the sake of which "power" ought to be "had on the head:" the veil is their yoke.

…. who cover not only the head, but the face also, so entirely, that they are content, with one eye free, to enjoy rather half the light than to prostitute the entire face."

Tertullian on the Veiling of Virgins A.D. 198

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Michael Daniels
Reformed, RPCNA
Denton, Maryland

As For Me And My House, We Will Serve The Lord

Unum Deum in Trinitate: Pater, Filius, et Spiritus Sanctus

Sola scriptura - Sola gratia - Sola fide - Solus Christus - Soli Deo gloria - Solum psalterium - Lex talionis

Good thing Tertullian wasn't divinely inspired =D

Nikki

Here is another Early Church Fathers quotes regarding that picture....



1. "Canon Seventeenth. Of woman, that they should cover their faces and their heads."

Hippolytus (170-236 a.d.)



2. "And she will never fall, who puts before her eyes modesty, and her shawl; nor will she invite another to fall into sin by uncovering her face. For this is the wish of the Word, since it is becoming for her to pray veiled.”
"It has also been commanded that the head should be veiled and the face covered. For it is a wicked thing for beauty to be a snare to men.

Clement of Alexandria (153-217 a.d.)

Interesting brother. Times have changed. For the better or for the worse?

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Pergamum

Coram Deo: I don't know, these are quite attractive still - better go with the burlap sack over the face. Or the full ninja suit.

Pergy:


Way to Funny......

Though I will admit there is a some attractiveness to face veils that is not lustful... More of a beauty of modesty and of admiration for the one covered.......

Oh Noes! Their HANDS are showing! So let me see if I understand this thought process correctly: women are tempting and men are unable to withstand the temptation of a woman's hair or eyelashes or hands or any part of her body. How nice to have that power.

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Calgal,

We have gotten alittle funny in this thread with extremes like the burkas.. No one is saying that hands must be hidden.. They are not listed anywhere in the scriptures along with other parts...

Those of us who support more fuller coverings are using descriptions from scripture of what should be covered... Body, Legs, head, etc....

Michael,

this is not funny really. The amazing thing is that the coverings do NOT take all responsibility from the man and frankly you guys have just as much responsibility for YOUR reactions as we women do to dress appropriately.

Those hands look like a hairy boxers hands and are not at all tempting to me.

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Benjamin P. Glaser
Pittsburgh, PA
Fairmount ARP Church

Student of Theology
Pittsburgh Theological Seminary
Reformed Presbyterian Theological Seminary
My Blog

Could you please provide a link for men's modest swimwear as well?? I'd like to see what it looks like..

The only things I could find are with lycra wetsuits which is pretty much skin tight on men, or jeans and a t-shirt and well, men with wet t-shirts clinging to their muscle bound bodies can cause women to lust as well...

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Bobbi Clark
Covenant Member
Pinewood Pres. (PCA) Middleburg

When I kept Silent, My bones wasted away through my groaning all day long. Psalm 32:3

Board shorts + wet T-shirt = Men's modest swimwear? I guess we get to lust after the muscle bound bodies from the protection of our burkhas......

Calgal,

I did not say it was all funny... I said the burka aspect was being funny... I was quite serious in my views on modesty... If you had read me early on in the thread I already stated that we guys have as much responsibility as you woman do for modesty....

Both are responsible.. One to dress modestly which is commanded and not cause their brothers to stumble and the other to not commit adultery by lusting with their eyes after woman...

I will also state that man have just has much responsibility to dress modesty for woman and not cause them to stumble.... which is why I am fully clad in the summer when it is a balmy 100 degree day and Maryland is humid so it feels hotter... No shirt is removed, my legs are covered down past my ankles and all my clothing is loose and not form fitting....

Michael

Here is what I would wear... It is lightweight and does not hold water.

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In seminary one of my roomates had a Catholic friend who gave him a statue of the Virgin Mary. Of course, that was problematic for us Reformed folk. But we didn't want to be jerks and tell the Catholic friend to go buzz off. So we got a whole bunch of electrical tape, wrapped it around the statue of Mary, and it looked like the perfect ninja!

Not bad. It looks Muslimish though.

I'm curious, does anyone know of a good website that sells headcoverings for Christian women? A site with photos.

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Chris
Independent Baptist
Michigan
Layman

Well there is Headcoverings by She Maketh Herself Coverings

it has alot of anabaptistic headcoverings from mennonite to brethren, to amish to hutterite, to german baptist, etc....