Doctors really, really, really wanted to abort this baby.

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3 things:

Wow!

Hallelujah!

Praise God!

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Amen!!

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Beautiful babies.

And to think the amount of trust people put in "those-in-charge-who-know-what-they-are-doing".

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Ashfield Presbyterian Church
Sydney, Australia
The Ransomed

That's exactly my point Vaughan. After my second daughter was born with a large hole in her heart the doctors told us that if we had any more children that they would most likely have the same birth defect. My doctor strongly suggested I get a vasectomy. I did. It has been one of my deepest regrets. I was so naive. These doctors over step their bounds and think they can play God. I am just so happy that in this case God many a loud statement against these 'high priests'.

i wonder how those doctors are feeling? If this doesn't let them give up performing any future abortions I don't know what will.

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That is amazing!

I don't think the doctors can be faulted for their decision. With the limited information they had they believed that they had to choose between one child dying and both children dying. We don't know for sure, but both children may have died if the placenta was not divided. Calling them "high-priests of medicine" is uncalled for; their intention was to save the other child.

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Winston-Salem, NC

Scott, why couldn't they have just split the placenta in the first place? Why was the euthanaizing of the sick child necessary?

Well, maybe they done learned them something! I just want to see what Gabriel turns out to be! Focus on the Family had a show with a woman who survived abortion when she was a baby, and the adoptive parents of a boy who survived partial-birth abortion. They both appeared before the Supreme Court when the partial-birth abortion ban went through.

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A close relative of mine survived a pre-Roe v. Wade aborton attempt (not physically or otherwise unscathed). There are websites devoted to abortion survivors. Each story is amazing. Praise God for confounding the wicked, and being the Lord of life. Have mercy upon us, O Lord.

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Amen. That is all I can say.

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To God belong the issues from death...

Respectfully Scott, I disagree. The doctors weren't trying to remove a dangerous tumor or defective part, they were trying to kill a baby. By kill, I mean 'to take someone's life without a just cause'. Obviously, the baby proved that the doctors advice was mere speculation and speculation is not a just cause to kill. I stand by my labeling these doctors as 'high-priests' of medicine. This wasn't medicine, it was prognostication and guessing. They tried to kill a healthy baby.

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Lon Wadkins (Jesup, Iowa)
New Covenant Fellowship, OPC
Independence, Iowa

Wow...I felt funny seeing the pic with the happy mom and the two happy kids.

I kept thinking, "Little boy, your mom is smiling away and she is the one that gave permission to have you killed..."

A serious question: What are the psychological effects on children that know that their parents tried to have them killed and the only reason they grow up was that they somehow survived that which their parents tried to have done to them.


THe mother probably thought she had to choose to lose one or both, so perhaps she is not as guilty. But WOW, how does a child grow up secure when they know that they were wanted as dead even as babies.

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-- David Livingstone

:cold chill:

We have some old copies of a magazine called "Above Rubies" and in there is a story of Tucker, a beautiful little boy who survived an abortion attempt. He has only stumps for legs and had some fingers ripped off as well, but even the most bloodthirsty "doctor" can't thwart God's Will. (He was adopted by an American couple.)

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Far East
Deacon, Int'l Church

Wow! Wow! Wow.

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Meghan Thomas
Central Baptist Church
Okinawa, Japan
Mother of Dustin 5, Lily 3, Annie 1

I don't know what their reasons were, but it seems rather presumptuous of us to assume it was because they really, really wanted to kill that baby. We simply don't have enough information to make that claim.

The action they took was not an abortion or euthanasia but more akin to cutting off life support. I believe we all agree that there are times when it is ethical to remove a person from life support when his condition is not expected to improve. Such was the case here.

Ironically enough, it might be the very procedure that the doctors used to try and murder Gabriel that ended up saving both the babies lives by evening out the nutrients to both babies. I wonder if they will now use this event to learn about how to save other children who might be in similar aituations instead of simply giving up and trying to murder one of them.

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Sherwood, Arkansas
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From the article:

"Doctors told her his death could cause his twin brother to die too before they were born, and that it would be better to end Gabriel's suffering sooner rather than later."

[...]

"Mrs Jones said: "They told us that if he died, it could be life threatening for his brother."

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26 years ago my wife was pregnant with our third child. From the beginning, a variety of physicians (HMOs in those days often gave you a different doctor on every visit) all agreed that there was something "wrong" with the baby. They all claimed she was "too small" and used the then exotic ultrasound to confirm their varied observations. Several physicians advised us to have a therapeutic abortion due to probable multiple birth defects and almost certain mental retardation. On Nov 18 another doc insisted that the baby was small and that my wife was at least six weeks away from delivery. On Nov 22 (four days later!!!) another physician (the head of OB-GYN at the California hospital) confirmed that the baby was "very small." The nurse disagreed, saying: "But Doctor, the baby is huge!" Around noon our 9 lbs 5 oz little girl was born.

Oh, btw, she finished 3/600 in high school; graduated from college AND seminary (summa cum laude) in 4.5 years; and her husband sure thinks that she is beautiful. She teaches at a Christian high school in the Midwest.

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