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Old 03-13-2008, 04:58 PM
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My wife and I have signed up to go on a 5 day seminar/teaching tour to Glacier Bay Alaska. He will be doing most most of the teaching focusing on the Sovereignty of God, Morning devotions will be led by the Editor of Table Talk. It sounds like a great time to learn and it will be gorgeous in June for the areas we will be in! We also will have some docking places and free time to explore. We are very exited!
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My wife and I have signed up to go on a 5 day seminar/teaching tour to Glacier Bay Alaska. He will be doing most most of the teaching focusing on the Sovereignty of God, Morning devotions will be led by the Editor of Table Talk. It sounds like a great time to learn and it will be gorgeous in June for the areas we will be in! We also will have some docking places and free time to explore. We are very exited!
I am sure RC Sproul will be honoured to meet you.
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My wife and I have signed up to go on a 5 day seminar/teaching tour to Glacier Bay Alaska. He will be doing most most of the teaching focusing on the Sovereignty of God, Morning devotions will be led by the Editor of Table Talk. It sounds like a great time to learn and it will be gorgeous in June for the areas we will be in! We also will have some docking places and free time to explore. We are very exited!
I am sure RC Sproul will be honoured to meet you.
Lol! Well, he should be!
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Have you been invited to speak?

Sounds great. Perhaps I will go someday.
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My husband and I have thought about doing one of these. You will love Alaska. It really is as beautiful and more beautiful than the pictures.
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My husband and I have thought about doing one of these. You will love Alaska. It really is as beautiful and more beautiful than the pictures.
We have never been to Alaska! The trip is in mid-June so loots of whales! We got some good "binos"!
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He will be doing most most of the teaching...
Have you been invited to speak?

Sounds great. Perhaps I will go someday.
NO! Ligonier! Those ingrates did not make me a speaker! They would rather hear Sproul....for some reason!
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Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

(IOW, I'm jealous as a green cow. )
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Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

(IOW, I'm jealous as a green cow. )



Where's the jealousy smilie?!?!?
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Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

(IOW, I'm jealous as a green cow. )
Lol! Not to rub salt BUT my Mom is giving me this as a B-Day present....so it is free! (I did not ask her , I just told her we were planning to go she called back and said I am giving you the cruise as a late B-Day present!
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My husband and I have thought about doing one of these. You will love Alaska. It really is as beautiful and more beautiful than the pictures.
We have never been to Alaska! The trip is in mid-June so loots of whales! We got some good "binos"!
You will need them. We saw a mama and baby orca right out front of my sister's house. There truly is wildlife everywhere. We have seen wolves, bears, eagles, seals, whales, deer, walrus, and moose. The scenery and colors are spectacular.
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Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

(IOW, I'm jealous as a green cow. )
Lol! Not to rub salt BUT my Mom is giving me this as a B-Day present....so it is free! (I did not ask her , I just told her we were planning to go she called back and said I am giving you the cruise as a late B-Day present!
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Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

Envy is a sin.

(IOW, I'm jealous as a green cow. )
Lol! Not to rub salt BUT my Mom is giving me this as a B-Day present....so it is free! (I did not ask her , I just told her we were planning to go she called back and said I am giving you the cruise as a late B-Day present!

How's your Mom feel about adoption?
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Maybe it is just me, but I have a real problem with all of these cruises these guys do.

With our country going up in flames and time running out, it just seems strange to be cruising.

Now, if he was engaging in strategic and operational planning on things to be done to turn the current crisis around, then it might be worthwhile. But to talk on a topic that every reformed person is well acquainted with and to be in a pietistic mindset about everything just doesn't seem right.

Again, I am not criticizing anyone for going on these cruises, but it just seems ackward.
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Maybe it is just me, but I have a real problem with all of these cruises these guys do.

With our country going up in flames and time running out, it just seems strange to be cruising.

Now, if he was engaging in strategic and operational planning on things to be done to turn the current crisis around, then it might be worthwhile. But to talk on a topic that every reformed person is well acquainted with and to be in a pietistic mindset about everything just doesn't seem right.

Again, I am not criticizing anyone for going on these cruises, but it just seems ackward.
Are you hinting for a postcard?
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Maybe it is just me, but I have a real problem with all of these cruises these guys do.

With our country going up in flames and time running out, it just seems strange to be cruising.

Now, if he was engaging in strategic and operational planning on things to be done to turn the current crisis around, then it might be worthwhile. But to talk on a topic that every reformed person is well acquainted with and to be in a pietistic mindset about everything just doesn't seem right.

Again, I am not criticizing anyone for going on these cruises, but it just seems ackward.

I agree. These cruises often rubbed me the wrong way as well. I have a hard time imagining the apostle Paul doing this if he were around today.

I think it is a very yuppie/materialistic thing to do.

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Maybe it is just me, but I have a real problem with all of these cruises these guys do.

With our country going up in flames and time running out, it just seems strange to be cruising.

Now, if he was engaging in strategic and operational planning on things to be done to turn the current crisis around, then it might be worthwhile. But to talk on a topic that every reformed person is well acquainted with and to be in a pietistic mindset about everything just doesn't seem right.

Again, I am not criticizing anyone for going on these cruises, but it just seems ackward.

I agree. These cruises often rubbed me the wrong way as well. I have a hard time imagining the apostle Paul doing this if he were around today.

I think it is a very yuppie/materialistic thing to do.

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PM your Snail mail and this Yuppie will send you a postcard as well. Frankly if you dislike them, don't go I will enjoy our Creators Beauty and sit under sound doctrine as well. Is that evil?
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Maybe it is just me, but I have a real problem with all of these cruises these guys do.

With our country going up in flames and time running out, it just seems strange to be cruising.

Now, if he was engaging in strategic and operational planning on things to be done to turn the current crisis around, then it might be worthwhile. But to talk on a topic that every reformed person is well acquainted with and to be in a pietistic mindset about everything just doesn't seem right.

Again, I am not criticizing anyone for going on these cruises, but it just seems ackward.

I agree. These cruises often rubbed me the wrong way as well. I have a hard time imagining the apostle Paul doing this if he were around today.

I think it is a very yuppie/materialistic thing to do.

Just my

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PM your Snail mail and this Yuppie will send you a postcard as well. Frankly if you dislike them, don't go I will enjoy our Creators Beauty and sit under sound doctrine as well. Is that evil?
Yuppies need the gospel as well; enjoy the cruise.
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I agree. These cruises often rubbed me the wrong way as well. I have a hard time imagining the apostle Paul doing this if he were around today.

I think it is a very yuppie/materialistic thing to do.

Just my

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PM your Snail mail and this Yuppie will send you a postcard as well. Frankly if you dislike them, don't go I will enjoy our Creators Beauty and sit under sound doctrine as well. Is that evil?
Yuppies need the gospel as well; enjoy the cruise.
Thank you Brother!
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Folks, no need to be green with envy. Your friendly neighborhood Baptist has a solution. This June come cruise the scenic Chesapeake Bay with me, Bill Brown. Your journey will begin on an old skipjack departing from Annapolis. Don't mind the long oars on board. I doubt we'll need them. All meals will be provided (that's what the fishing tackle and blood worms are for). We'll have an in-depth study of John Hagee's latest book. If the fuel lasts we'll visit historic St. Michael's, Cambridge and Easton, Maryland. With any luck Michael Daniels will come over from Denton with fresh water. A great time will be had by all. Sleeping accommodations will be under the stars in the back of the boat or on shore, take your pick. Who needs the plush, 5 star treatment on a cruise ship when you can sail with me on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay? Book by April 1st and you'll get an extra day of crabbing on the Choptank River.
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Folks, no need to be green with envy. Your friendly neighborhood Baptist has a solution. This June come cruise the scenic Chesapeake Bay with me, Bill Brown. Your journey will begin on an old skipjack departing from Annapolis. Don't mind the long oars on board. I doubt we'll need them. All meals will be provided (that's what the fishing tackle and blood worms are for). We'll have an in-depth study of John Hagee's latest book. If the fuel lasts we'll visit historic St. Michael's, Cambridge and Easton, Maryland. With any luck Michael Daniels will come over from Denton with fresh water. A great time will be had by all. Sleeping accommodations will be under the stars in the back of the boat or on shore, take your pick. Who needs the plush, 5 star treatment on a cruise ship when you can sail with me on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay? Book by April 1st and you'll get an extra day of crabbing on the Choptank River.
Put me down Bill! (Is there a crab limit?)
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That sounds awesome. Enjoy and learn. Soak it up.

Oh and tell those Alaskans that when Al Gore's dreams come true they will not have a state bigger than Texas.
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That sounds awesome. Enjoy and learn. Soak it up.

Oh and tell those Alaskans that when Al Gore's dreams come true they will not have a state bigger than Texas.
I can't wait! Providence led me to Sproul's writings which led me to Reformed thought. It will be a great time to talk to him and learn and enjoy the sights of Alaska! I plan on soaking up everything they offer. Pray God's Blessing on our time my friend. Grace and Peace.
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Golly, Bill, that certainly sounds like an absolutely unforgettable time, but frankly, if a cruise doesn't involve a chocolate buffet and towels folded into winsome, clever animals, it's not my sort of travel.

Laying on a deck chair, feet propped on the rail, sipping a Kahlua colada while the Berry Islands slide past....now that's cruisin' Ivy-style!

Hint to those who haven't cruised before: Unless you're an up-with-the-birds sort, don't get an outside cabin on the promenade deck, else you'll be awakened early by all the joggers. Most annoying!
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You're going to have a super time, I know.

Take notes on everything and report back to us, please!

And pictures...lots and lots of pictures. If there's not at least one of you with RCSR, we might suspect you were actually on Bill's bloodworm cruise instead.

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Prior to my 50s I carped about what a silly waste of money cruises were. Now, having done the Alaska trip (unfortunately NOT with R.C.!!!) and Greece and the cities of Paul cruise, I can testify that they are cost effective and amazing ways to see the world. Both in terms of dollars and wear and tear on the bod (no changing hotels all the time), they are a GREAT way to go. Add the dimension of a dream vacation sweetened with Christian fellowship and Bible teaching and you have a home run. Enjoy this wonderful opportunity! Only those who are opposed to vacations or Bible teaching (on principle) should have a problem with this kind of venture. What a great deal!

I have friends who spend more on basketball games in a single season than the average cruise with a Christian leader. One of my friends spends more on his Dodger tickets every year than five trips with R.C. to Alaska cost.
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My wife and I have signed up to go on a 5 day seminar/teaching tour to Glacier Bay Alaska. He will be doing most most of the teaching focusing on the Sovereignty of God, Morning devotions will be led by the Editor of Table Talk. It sounds like a great time to learn and it will be gorgeous in June for the areas we will be in! We also will have some docking places and free time to explore. We are very exited!

I must now confess to the sin of envy.


Perhaps you could stow me in your luggage and carry me along Max?
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Add the dimension of a dream vacation sweetened with Christian fellowship and Bible teaching and you have a home run.
Especially the Christian fellowship. The idea of being on a cruise not only with my husband but in the company of so many other believers makes me almost swoon.
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Maybe it is just me, but I have a real problem with all of these cruises these guys do.

With our country going up in flames and time running out, it just seems strange to be cruising.

Now, if he was engaging in strategic and operational planning on things to be done to turn the current crisis around, then it might be worthwhile. But to talk on a topic that every reformed person is well acquainted with and to be in a pietistic mindset about everything just doesn't seem right.

Again, I am not criticizing anyone for going on these cruises, but it just seems ackward.
Are you hinting for a postcard?
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My wife and I have signed up to go on a 5 day seminar/teaching tour to Glacier Bay Alaska. He will be doing most most of the teaching focusing on the Sovereignty of God, Morning devotions will be led by the Editor of Table Talk. It sounds like a great time to learn and it will be gorgeous in June for the areas we will be in! We also will have some docking places and free time to explore. We are very exited!
Oooh! Can you ask R.C. to get your autograph and have him send it to me, please?
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Prior to my 50s I carped about what a silly waste of money cruises were. Now, having done the Alaska trip (unfortunately NOT with R.C.!!!) and Greece and the cities of Paul cruise, I can testify that they are cost effective and amazing ways to see the world. Both in terms of dollars and wear and tear on the bod (no changing hotels all the time), they are a GREAT way to go. Add the dimension of a dream vacation sweetened with Christian fellowship and Bible teaching and you have a home run. Enjoy this wonderful opportunity! Only those who are opposed to vacations or Bible teaching (on principle) should have a problem with this kind of venture. What a great deal!

I have friends who spend more on basketball games in a single season than the average cruise with a Christian leader. One of my friends spends more on his Dodger tickets every year than five trips with R.C. to Alaska cost.
Thank you Brother. This is our yearly Summer vacation: As you pointed out cruises are cost effective, and good point about the objectors! Is it sinful to have a cruise with Godly Reformed Brethren and incorporate Devotions, Worship, and Study of God's Word while in the beauty of God's Creation? Like you I fail to understand the objections:Is it Reformed Christians must never cruise or vacation? OR is the argument:Reformed Brethren should NEVER travel together with the express purpose of solid Reformed Worship and Fellowship in God's Creation? I am glad you are as confused as I am about this "horrible" thing.
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My wife and I have signed up to go on a 5 day seminar/teaching tour to Glacier Bay Alaska. He will be doing most most of the teaching focusing on the Sovereignty of God, Morning devotions will be led by the Editor of Table Talk. It sounds like a great time to learn and it will be gorgeous in June for the areas we will be in! We also will have some docking places and free time to explore. We are very exited!
Oooh! Can you ask R.C. to get your autograph and have him send it to me, please?
I charge for those! How many would you like?
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My wife and I have signed up to go on a 5 day seminar/teaching tour to Glacier Bay Alaska. He will be doing most most of the teaching focusing on the Sovereignty of God, Morning devotions will be led by the Editor of Table Talk. It sounds like a great time to learn and it will be gorgeous in June for the areas we will be in! We also will have some docking places and free time to explore. We are very exited!

I must now confess to the sin of envy.


Perhaps you could stow me in your luggage and carry me along Max?
How much do you weigh Don?
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FWIW, Levi was called to follow Jesus and the next thing he did was throw a big party and invite all of his friends. (Luke 5:27-32)

The world wasn't in very good shape then either but that didn't seem to matter to Jesus. Now I realize that Levi was an apostle and that times may have been different in some respects, so one is not going to use this text to justify any big expense, but in light of the general principle, a cruise to learn more about God's Word seems justified doesn't it?

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Add the dimension of a dream vacation sweetened with Christian fellowship and Bible teaching and you have a home run.
Especially the Christian fellowship. The idea of being on a cruise not only with my husband but in the company of so many other believers makes me almost swoon.
I've thought that, some year in the distant future, it might be cool to organize a PB cruise. Just a thought. I definitely want to try to make some gatherings when I'm in the States since I've enjoyed seeing folks when I'm out and about on various trips.
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Don't toy with me, Rich.

It's not nice.

Wouldn't that be super? It'd need to be planned a long way in advance to provide participants as much time as possible to save up for it, but if we had an 18 month lead time, I daresay quite a few of us could manage to swing it.

And regional clambakes would be fun, too, of course!
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regonal clam bake!

CLAME BAKE!

Sounds like you might want to come to New England for that. We gots clams, an' oystahs, an' lobstahs, an' all them good stuff! Ayuh!

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Some pending legislation, might put an end to the Alaska Cruise!

The law requires that American domestic cruises must use ships of American registry, which are required to be built in America and manned by American crews.

There is such an operation in Hawaii which has been reduced from 3 ships to 1 ship due to foreign competition. In order to protect this small operation, legislation is being considered that ships with foreign registry must devote a significant portion of their cruise time at non-US ports.

Notice that when R.C. tells where this cruise is going, there is a Canadian port (Victoria, B.C.) in the list. Under current law, this token foreign port of call is all that is needed to have a Dutch ship make this cruise.
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Add the dimension of a dream vacation sweetened with Christian fellowship and Bible teaching and you have a home run.
Especially the Christian fellowship. The idea of being on a cruise not only with my husband but in the company of so many other believers makes me almost swoon.
I've thought that, some year in the distant future, it might be cool to organize a PB cruise. Just a thought. I definitely want to try to make some gatherings when I'm in the States since I've enjoyed seeing folks when I'm out and about on various trips.
Cool Rich, I am not sure you can top Bill's crabbing skiff. But what can?
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Maybe it is just me, but I have a real problem with all of these cruises these guys do.

With our country going up in flames and time running out, it just seems strange to be cruising.

Now, if he was engaging in strategic and operational planning on things to be done to turn the current crisis around, then it might be worthwhile. But to talk on a topic that every reformed person is well acquainted with and to be in a pietistic mindset about everything just doesn't seem right.

Again, I am not criticizing anyone for going on these cruises, but it just seems ackward.

I agree. These cruises often rubbed me the wrong way as well. I have a hard time imagining the apostle Paul doing this if he were around today.

I think it is a very yuppie/materialistic thing to do.

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PM your Snail mail and this Yuppie will send you a postcard as well. Frankly if you dislike them, don't go I will enjoy our Creators Beauty and sit under sound doctrine as well. Is that evil?
Just to be clear. It wasn't my intention to attack you and call you a yuppie/materialistic. If you look above, I was responding to R.Harris who wrote:

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Maybe it is just me, but I have a real problem with all of these cruises these guys do.
I am not calling out Sproul and Macarthur (or you for that matter) for being materialistic. I am just saying that this specific thing smacks of materialism. (and yes, I do materialistic things too.)

I am just questioning if this sort of thing (setting up these types of cruises) is profitable as far a Christian witness goes. I would argue that it isn’t.

Hopefully this clears up any hurt feelings and I apologize I wasn't more clear in what I was addressing in my previous post.

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