Thread: 35 years ago today

Sadly, abortion was declared legal in the US on this day.


Perhaps we should remember that in prayer today.

Makes one wonder what type of judgement "this generation" may bear after 40 years.

Originally Posted by Blueridge Baptist

Makes one wonder what type of judgement "this generation" may bear after 40 years.

...in addition to a generation of mothers who wantonly kill their own children and those that celebrate it.

One shudders to think about a worse judgement.

Jer 3:2 Lift up thine eyes unto the high places, and see where thou hast not been lien with. In the ways hast thou sat for them, as the Arabian in the wilderness; and thou hast polluted the land with thy whoredoms and with thy wickedness.
Jer 3:3 Therefore the showers have been withholden, and there hath been no latter rain; and thou hadst a whore's forehead, thou refusedst to be ashamed.

139: Despite 50 Million Abortions Since 1973 NRTLC’s Lawyer Jim Bopp Says Now Not Yet Time To Ban All Murder Of Innocent Unborn Babies!

Just a reminder on this sad anniversary. Republican presidents and congress, Democrat presidents and congress, liberal and conservative politicians, for all their promises and rhetoric and bluster have not stopped abortion's insatiable hunger for babies in 35 years. 35 years!

"Bring no more futile sacrifices;
Incense is an abomination to Me.
The New Moons, the Sabbaths, and the calling of assemblies—
I cannot endure iniquity and the sacred meeting.
Your New Moons and your appointed feasts
My soul hates;
They are a trouble to Me,
I am weary of bearing them.
When you spread out your hands,
I will hide My eyes from you;
Even though you make many prayers,
I will not hear.
Your hands are full of blood."

-Isaiah 1:13-15

I read a write up by James White *I think, if it was one of the other pros apologian folks I apologize* in which this verse was referenced with regard to our nation.

Everytime something bad happens, all of the heathens and unbelievers join together and hold candle-light vigils, offer up prayer, and get all "spiritual". The next day, it's back to God-hating, encouraging the mass murder of children, and protecting and nurturing sin.

I firmly believe God does not listen to a single prayer they offer up, they don't even hit the gate of Heaven, much less the Sovereign's ear. Our hands are full of the blood of our own children. How in the world could we expect God to bless this nation? What happened to last nation that sacrificed their own children?

We are already being judged through the Babylonians.

How sad that in 35 years more people have been killed in the "land of the free" than in Nazi Germany; our revulsion of the holocaust (in the UK as well as in the US) is the utmost hypocrisy.

May God Forgive Us, and Have mercy upon this Nation...

And who knows, our judgement may come in the form of a Woman President..

This from The American View website:

Despite 50 Million Abortions Since 1973 NRTLC’s Lawyer Jim Bopp Says Now Not Yet Time To Ban All Murder Of Innocent Unborn Babies!

January 22 is yet another anniversary of the Supreme Court’s evil, murderous Roe v. Wade ruling which has resulted in the murder of 50 million innocent, unborn babies. And though it’s hard to believe that a supposedly pro-life person could say such a thing, a recent “Associated Press” story (12/6/2007) quotes Bopp as saying: “We don’t think it is yet time to pursue efforts to prohibit abortion” – meaning all abortions. Instead he continues to favor his failed strategy of incrementalism which seeks to merely regulate the murder of unborn children. This faithless, cowardly, luke-warm strategy says, in effect, to the woman about to murder her unborn child: You must, first, do thus and such (see an ultrasound photo of your unborn baby, know that his heart beats, that he feels pain, etc.) – and then you may murder your baby. Please listen closely to this program because you need to more about James Bopp, Jr.

Go to the website to hear the interview.

Incrementalism - what a useless waste of effort that has been.

LewRockwell.com Blog: 'Roe' Endorses Ron

Today – the 35th anniversary of the Supremes' Roe v. Wade usurpation – Norma McCorvey ('Roe') has endorsed Ron Paul for president. Ms. McCorvey runs Crossing Over Ministry and is best known as 'Jane Roe'. She says: “Ron Paul states, ‘The right of an innocent, unborn child to life is at the heart of the American ideals of liberty.’ I support Ron Paul for president because we share the same goal, that of overturning Roe v Wade."

I heard on NPR this morning in my fog of waking up a story about one of the legislative attempts to bypass Roe, namely a bill that declares the human rights of embryos from the moment of conception.

What do you suppose the reaction to this bill was by a "choicer"? "This bill paves the way for women to be made criminals for having a miscarriage!"

What kind of fearmongering idiocy is that!? What one has to do with another I don't know - but one clearly sees that the driving force behind "choice" is "fear" - fear of taking responsibility for one's actions.

Interestingly, there was a stark admission of the abortifacient character of most standard forms of birth control in this interview...

How we have strayed.



God spake these words, and said: I am the LORD thy God, Thou shalt have none other gods but me.

R. Lord, have mercy upon us, and incline our hearts to keep this law.

Thou shalt not make to thyself any graven images, nor the likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the water under the earth; thou shalt not bow down to them, nor worship them; for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, and visit the sins of the fathers upon the children, unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me, and show mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.

R. Lord, have mercy upon us, and incline our hearts to keep this law.

Thou shalt not take the Name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless, that taketh His Name in vain.

R. Lord, have mercy upon us, and incline our hearts to keep this law.

Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath-day. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all that thou hast to do; but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God. In it thou shalt do no manner of work; thou, and thy son, and thy daughter, thy man-servant, and thy maid-servant, thy cattle, and the stranger that is within thy gates. For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the seventh day, and hallowed it.

R. Lord, have mercy upon us, and incline our hearts to keep this law.

Honor thy father and thy mother; that thy days may be long in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

R. Lord, have mercy upon us, and incline our hearts to keep this law.

Thou shalt do no murder.

R. Lord, have mercy upon us, and incline our hearts to keep this law.

Thou shalt not commit adultery.

R. Lord, have mercy upon us, and incline our hearts to keep this law.

Thou shalt not steal.

R. Lord, have mercy upon us, and incline our hearts to keep this law.

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

R. Lord, have mercy upon us, and incline our hearts to keep this law.

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his servant, nor his maid, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is his.

R. Lord, have mercy upon us, and write all these thy laws in our hearts, we beseech thee.

Hear what our Lord Jesus Christ saith: Thou shalt love the LORD thy God will all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it: Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.


Lord, have mercy upon us.

R. Lord, have mercy upon us.

Lord, have mercy upon us.

Christ, have mercy upon us.

R. Christ, have mercy upon us.

Christ, have mercy upon us.

Lord, have mercy upon us.

R. Lord, have mercy upon us.

Lord, have mercy upon us.

Originally Posted by Richard King

Sadly, abortion was declared legal in the US on this day.


Perhaps we should remember that in prayer today.

Richard, this isn't quite right - abortion wasn't declared legal, State criminalization against abortion was held to be violative of the US Constitution via "emanations and pneumbras" of the 9th Amendment and made applicable to the States via the 14th Amendment whereby only persons "born or naturalized" have civil protection of their rights.

While you may then conclude that it is legalized thereby and thus that it is the same thing, the legal concept is called a "negative pregnant," and is precisely why Madison and other Founders opposed the Bill of Rights. But it is not the same thing legally, there was no legislation legalizing abortion, it is a judicial decision. Although, it is important to note that Barbara Boxer and many other Senators and Congressman are attempting to push through S 1173 and its companion bill in the House declaring that abortion is public policy of the United States and thereby legalizing it, forcing the states to remove statutes against abortion from their books and thereby imputing their guilt unto us.

That is important distinction, because every woman that engages in that activity presently, is enacting the adjudication of the United States Supreme Court down upon her own head and the child within her womb, just as surely if she was standing at bar prosecuting the child unto death. Hence, she comes into a abortion mill with a judicial order in hand ordering the State's prohibition stayed.

While this is an inversion of Justice, there is something very very wrong in a society whereby this is an issue as the very concept of women considering this as a viable option has a tremendous amount of self degradation and perversion in it. While this statement shouldn't be interpreted as favoring Roe v Wade, there is a certain amount of God's grace manifested in this unto us, as it could be a lot worse and something on the order of China where the number of children is regulated and abortions are forced.

Hence, I view it a lot like God's Judgment upon the first born of Egypt, our homes are protected under the blood of the Lamb, theirs is visited by the Angel of Death and they are cutting themselves off from the blessings of the Covenant, of their own free will.

"But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death." Proverbs 8:36

Originally Posted by turmeric

We are already being judged through the Babylonians.

I recently preached on Hab. Indeed, it would not suprise me if we were being judged by the "Babylonians." Republicans won office by pandering to those who objected to things like abortion, yet did little other than offer up a couple of ambiguous SCOTUS choices who have yet to be tested on the issue.

But, remember the end of Hab. "Yet will I rejoice . . ." May we have the faith to hear those words and internalize them in our souls even IF the Lord choses to judge America ever so severely now for the murder of so many millions of babies.

A sad day indeed

I preached on the subject on Sunday (should have the audio of that sermon up today) and published a prior sermon on the subject with some commentary and statistics today at the Building Old School Churches blog

Dennis,

Only one innocent man has ever been concieved.

Originally Posted by Zenas

Dennis,

Only one innocent man has ever been concieved.

Meant in the meaning of the term "innocent" found in ethics, not in the theological sense, obviously. Unjust taking of human life is a serious matter to the Maker (cf. Gen 9:6), abrogating to the creature the prerogatives of the Creator, a violation of the sixth commandment.

Originally Posted by DMcFadden

Originally Posted by Zenas

Dennis,

Only one innocent man has ever been concieved.

Meant in the meaning of the term "innocent" found in ethics, not in the theological sense, obviously. Unjust taking of human life is a serious matter to the Maker (cf. Gen 9:6), abrogating to the creature the prerogatives of the Creator, a violation of the sixth commandment.

They are innocent in the sense that they have not committed a crime worthy of death. Only God has the right to decide when man's life should be taken away.

I know I'm just being a dork. My apologies.