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Hi all -- My name's John Bugay, and I'm from Pittsburgh. Some of you all may have seen my name (or you may even know me) from other discussions. I know quite a bit about Roman Catholicism, and I'm avidly studying both church history and Reformed theology, within the context of having a job and raising a family.

I've lurked here for quite some time, and I do very much appreciate both the knowledge of the individuals here and the tenor of the discussions. Thank you very much for all of your concern for Christ's kingdom.
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I would appreciate hearing your assessment of Loraine Boetter's book on Roman Catholicism, someday.
Wayne, I'll be happy to do that. Generally, I liked the book a lot; it's a great response to the pre-Vatican II version of Roman Catholicism. Although, it's been made fun of becaue of Boettner's characterization of "ex cathedra."

There are other, more current treatments of RCism, including DTK's work with William Webster, "Holy Scripture". Just reading early church history, too, is going to give you a whole lot to say to Catholics, and by and large, they are ignorant of that history.
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Welcome to the PB. I pray that you and yours are all doing well. I still have fond memories of my time with you and your kids there in Pittsburg. Maybe we can do it again one day.

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Welcome to the PB. I pray that you and yours are all doing well. I still have fond memories of my time with you and your kids there in Pittsburg. Maybe we can do it again one day.
Hi David -- I'm in between jobs right now, but in many ways, I'm better prepared for this than at any time in the past (for which I am very grateful). I would absolutely love to spend some more time with you. As you requested, I still tell my daughters every day how beautiful they are. I hope you're doing well.

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Do you like James White?
James White is phenomenal. His work gave me the knowledge and the courage to step away from Catholicism, in the face of the brutal anathemas they have for folks like me (CCC 846).

Have you seen the recent excerpts from his debates on the papacy?

(By the way, I've had well-meaning Catholics tell me, "you weren't really well catechized in the 1970's, and so you might still not be under the anathema, because of "invincible ignorance.")
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Welcome,

per your introduction and reading your profile, here is a list of basic reformed theology reference and reading materials:


Westminster Standards

That's the PCA blue notebook that has loose leaf pages- Westminster Standards (Confessions, Larger and Shorter Catechism) with Scripture proofs at the bottom of each page plus it has an excellent concise Reformation historical summary.
[often, 2/3 or more of the page is Scripture]

CEP Bookstore - WESTMINSTER COF & CATECHISMS W/SCRIPTURE LOOSE L

The Blue notebook binder: (also designed to contain the PCA Book of Church Order, both the Westminster Standards and BCO are the constitution of the PCA):
CEP Bookstore - BOOK OF CHURCH ORDER BINDER


Westminster Standards Study Guide

GI Williamson
CEP Bookstore - WESTMINSTER CONFESSION FOR STUDY CLASSES


Practical Christian Living:

Joseph Pipa, The Lord’s Day
http://www.bookschristian.com/se/pro...Paperback.html


Eschatology:

Kim Riddlebarger, A Case for Amillennialism

A Case for Amillennialism - By: Kim Riddlebarger - Christianbook.com


Reformed Theology Books

Calvin Know Cummings, Confessing Christ
[short booklet]
Westminster Bookstore - Reformed Books - Low Prices - Flat Fee UPS Shipping - Confessing Christ (020060)

JI Packer, Concise Theology
Concise Theology: A Guide to Historic Christian Beliefs :: Systematic Theologies :: Doctrine/Theology :: Monergism Books :: Reformed Books and Resources for Christians

JI Packer, Knowing God
Westminster Bookstore - Reformed Books - Low Prices - Flat Fee UPS Shipping - Knowing God by J. I. Packer 9780830816507

RC Sproul, The Holiness of God
Westminster Bookstore - Reformed Books - Low Prices - Flat Fee UPS Shipping - The Holiness of God (Paperback)

RC Sproul, What is Reformed Theology?
Westminster Bookstore - Reformed Books - Low Prices - Flat Fee UPS Shipping - What is Reformed Theology? by R. C. Sproul 9780801065590

John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion [Abridged softcover edition convenient for reading]

https://store.ligonier.org/product.a...roduct=INS02BP

John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion [classic, 2 volume edition for study and reference]

https://store.ligonier.org/product.a...roduct=INS04BH


Covenant Theology

Barrett, Michael Love Divine and Unfailing: The Gospel According to Hosea (The Gospel According to the Old Testament)

Westminster Bookstore - Reformed Books - Low Prices - Flat Fee UPS Shipping - Love Divine and Unfailing: The Gospel According to Hosea (The Gospel According to the Old Testament) (Paperback) by Michael P. V. Barrett 9781596380752
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As you requested, I still tell my daughters every day how beautiful they are. I hope you're doing well.
I'm glad to hear that John. I'm doing as well as can be expected for a man who's past his prime.

I'll be praying for your job search.

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Welcome,

per your introduction and reading your profile, ...
Wow Scott, thanks!! I have a few of these, and variations on others. But I'll certainly refer to this list when setting my reading priorities.

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I'm doing as well as can be expected for a man who's past his prime.

I'll be praying for your job search.
I'm very grateful for both of these.
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Roman Catholicism (Monergism, click here)

Dr. M. Lloyd-Jones - Roman Catholicism (click here)

John Calvin - Antidote to Trent (click here)
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ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNND From another former Roman Catholic turned Presbyterian, welcome!
I guess my initial post made it seem like all of this happened instantaneously, or at least rather quickly. But it has been a long process. I'm 49 years old, and have been on this path for about 10 years. So I guess I'm not such a newbie as I made myself out to be.

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Anyone else notice that we are joined today by both Bugay and "buggy" ?
Well, I can't speak to that ... my ancestors' name from Slovakia was "Bugaj".
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Hi John,

Welcome. I too am an ex roman catholic and now a Reformed Presbyterian Protestant. Read my profile and some of my posts. If you would like to be friends let me know.

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Smile I think former roman catholics become very staunch Protestants

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Former Roman Catholics make good Presbyterians.
I think former roman catholics become very staunch Protestants and and as Presbyterians we are more convicted with our Reformed Protestant faith than many cradle Protestants. I have been told by many of my Protestant friends I have become more protestant than they are! There are in the United States today 15 million cradle roman catholics who are now Protestant.

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