Just out of curiosity (what else?), and a spin-off from the Puritans vs. Presbyterians thread.

Wondered how many own, and how many have read, the Hart & Muether book, Seeking a Better Country: 300 Years of American Presbyterianism. Phillipsburg, NJ: P&R, 2007.

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We need an option "will read if someone gives or lends it to me but won't lay down any money for it".

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Calvinistas Conversando
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. . . that's what libraries are for . . . or so I hear.

I own it and have read the first chapter or so. So far it is "stereotypical" Hart and Muether.

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Benjamin P. Glaser, M. Div, Licentiate, Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church
Member Fairmount ARP Church
Pittsburgh, PA

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Libraries require effort; especially if they are county libraries run by people largely indifferent to Presbyterianism.

In fact I am with John Muether all this week. I am in OPC Church History with the MTIOPC and Dr. Muether is my instructor. It is a good book and kind of takes OPC history further than A Pilgrim's People and Presbyterian Conflict.

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Jeff Wyman
Man Under Care
Little Farms Chapel OPC, Coopersville, MI
Puritan Reformed Theological Seminary

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What does that mean? For someone not knowing the authors this really doesnt mean anything. Could you slightly elaborate?

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Brian E
Attending Falls OPC
Menomonee Falls, WI

I had to read it for a class...it is "Hart and Muether" ALL the way through. Bleh.

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What is steriotypical about Hart and Muether?

What does this mean? One may dissagree with some (or all) of their conclusions about American Presbyterian church history and some of them I do, however I have not had the impression that Hart and Muether's books are boring to read.

BTW I have recently ordered this book and am glad to recieve feedback, critical or otherwise.

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Josiah Lovett
Member of
Trinity OPC
Bothell WA
Orthodox Presbyterian Church
Westminster Standards

They tend to (as all historians are/have to be) write/report history with a seeming agenda - and it is not a "bad" agenda, just writing from their perspective.

Quite agreed. I hope that this book lives up to my expectations as it was a bit pricy. I bought it off of amazon for $17.99