Hello,

I am re-researching the Catholic Predestinarians, or, what we might call the "Pre-Calvin Calvinists" or the "Pre-Reformation Reformers."

Can you help me? Particularly with online sourses. Also, particularly regarding Gottschalk, and the Jansenists.

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Pergamum


"If a commission by an earthly king is considered a honor, how can a commission by a Heavenly King be considered a sacrifice?"
-- David Livingstone

Might be of interest: Godescalc - a medieval predestinarian

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Jacob
Sovereign Grace Ministries
Covenant Fellowship Church
WTS M.A.R. in Theology student
West Chester, PA

"Grace renews nature; glory perfects grace." ~ John Owen
"Grace tried is better than grace, and more than grace. It is glory in its infancy." ~ John Flavel
Blog - The Strasbourg Inn

Go to Google Books and/or www.archive.org to search.

Jacques d'Estaples was an influence on Calvin in regards to worship. But what were his views regarding the sovereignty of God, predestination, definite atonement, etc.?

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Wayne Sparkman, Th.M.
Director, PCA Historical Center, St. Louis, MO
Blogs: The Continuing Story and PCA History Blog

I've asked this question before and was given two names, Gregory of Rimini and Hugolino of Orvieto.

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Perg, JM mentioned Gregory of Rimini: his predestinarian teachings were particularly important for the Reformers and Reformed teaching on the subject. Frank James has done good research in this area in several places; particularly 1.) in his contribution to the volume he edited with Heiko Oberman, Via Augustini, and 2.) His work, Peter Martyr Vermigli and Predestination, in which he examines the influence of (chiefly) Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, Gregory of Rimini and Juan de Valdes on Vermigli's teachings on predestination.

Another largely good resource is James Halverson's work, Peter Aureol on Predestination, published by Brill. Much of Rimini's thought was written to counter Aureol's teachings. This work does provide some good information and context on the various teachings on predestination in the late Middle Ages.

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Paul Korte
OPC
Flint, MI

They who perceive in themselves discoveries of the divine goodness, so full and absolutely perfect, and who make them the subject of earnest meditation, will never embrace new doctrines, by which the very grace they feel so powerfully in themselves is thrown into the shade. --John Calvin

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Gregory of Rimini (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

Don't forget the English stalwarts: Bede the Venerable, Thomas Bradwardine and John Wycliffe (all good Augustinians) - though it may be difficult to find information regarding their theological views on the internet.

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Rev. Daniel Kok
Pastor of Grace Reformed Church (URCNA)
Leduc, Alberta CANADA

"What sort of pledge and how great is this of love towards us! Christ lives for us not for himself!"
John Calvin, Commentary on the Hebrews (7:25)

Thanks you guys!!!!! You all are a wealth of information! :b anana:

A summary of Bradwardine's views on determinism and predestination can be found here: English Historical Documents 1327-1485 - Google Books

I just finished James' Vermigli book and I highly recommend it.

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Benjamin P. Glaser, M. Div, Licentiate, Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church
Member Fairmount ARP Church
Pittsburgh, PA

Deo Vindice

Moses, David, and Paul were pretty good as well

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Scott Kessler
Covenant Community OPC
Staunton, VA
Covenant Theology
Christian Skepticism
Christianity In History

Isaiah and Jeremiah are pretty good too.

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Ivan R. Schoen, B.A., M.A., M.L.I.S.
Pastor of Maranatha Baptist Church (SBC)
Poplar Grove, IL, USA
http://maranatha-sbc.org

Johann von Staupitz, Luther's mentor, published a treatise on predestination. I don't know of an online resource but it is reprinted in Heiko Oberman's Forerunners of the Reformation and at least partially in Denis Janz's Reformation Reader. Also, David Steinmetz's Misericordia Dei and Luther and Staupitz contain analyses of Staupitz's predestinarianism.

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Charlie Johnson
Downtown Presbyterian Church (PCA)
Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminary, student