The PuritanBoard  

Go Back   The PuritanBoard > The Church > Church History

Church History Discuss the History of the Christian Church

» Online Users: 37
4 members and 33 guests
christianyouth, PuritanCovenanter
Most users ever online was 856, 07-06-2007 at 12:19 AM.
Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 07-23-2007, 03:35 PM
Southern Presbyterian's Avatar
Puritanboard Graduate
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Wytheville, Virginia
Posts: 3,221
Thanks: 880
Thanked 371 Times in 288 Posts
AW Pink - Biographical Information

Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig View Post

pulling an A.W. Pink.
Excuse the ignorance, but what is the nature of the refrence to A. W. Pink?
__________________
~James Helbert~, Wytheville, VA
Providence Reformed Presbyterian Church, RPCUS

TheBibleAlone.com / The Edinburgh Inn
"Is this not a brand plucked from the fire?” - Zechariah 3:2
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 07-23-2007, 03:52 PM
Blueridge Believer's Avatar
Puritanboard Postgraduate
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: RADFORD VA.
Posts: 4,243
Thanks: 884
Thanked 980 Times in 473 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wythe County Calvinist View Post
Excuse the ignorance, but what is the nature of the refrence to A. W. Pink?

In the later years of Pink's life he became a recluse and would not fellowship with anyone hardly is what I am told. I do not know all of the particulars but maybe some here could elaborate.
__________________
1689 Baptist Confession

Psa 55:16 As for me, I will call upon God; and the LORD shall save me.
Psa 55:17 Evening, and morning, and at noon, will I pray, and cry aloud: and he shall hear my voice.
James Farley, Wilderness Road Baptist Assembly.
Husband of Melissa and father of Ann.
www.wildernessroadbaptist.org
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 07-23-2007, 07:18 PM
armourbearer's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia
Posts: 4,795
Thanks: 577
Thanked 2,176 Times in 862 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueridge reformer View Post
In the later years of Pink's life he became a recluse and would not fellowship with anyone hardly is what I am told. I do not know all of the particulars but maybe some here could elaborate.
To elaborate, he went to Scotland expecting to find the church of his dreams, and found himself in a nightmare. A. W. Pink outgrew the visible church of Christ on earth, which means he forgot what it means to be a servant of Christ labouring amongst mere mortals.
__________________
Yours sincerely,


"Illum oportet crescere me autem minui."
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 07-23-2007, 07:50 PM
polemic_turtle's Avatar
Puritanboard Freshman
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Currently reading you while you think you\'re
Posts: 447
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
It was a difficult time of history: churches were either circling the wagons to guard against liberalism, were too Arminian to let Mr. Pink preach, or were hyper-Calvinistic. Mr. Pink encountered the first in paedobaptist churches which wouldn't allow a credobaptist to preach at their churches, the second in tent "revivals"( I'm not sure if he would endorse the term ), and the third in a Gospel Standard church which he pastored in Australia.
__________________
Tyler Upchurch
Talkative Fellow
Grace Chapel Primitive Baptist Church
Mason, TN
- - - - - - -
My Library!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 07-23-2007, 08:03 PM
panta dokimazete's Avatar
Puritanboard Postgraduate
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,030
Thanks: 510
Thanked 283 Times in 208 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by armourbearer View Post
To elaborate, he went to Scotland expecting to find the church of his dreams, and found himself in a nightmare. A. W. Pink outgrew the visible church of Christ on earth, which means he forgot what it means to be a servant of Christ labouring amongst mere mortals.
yup - and rationalized it, too...

Quote:
The last sixteen years of his life, he spent on the Isle of Lewis, Scotland, in virtual isolation by his own choice, rejecting formal association with any church.

Explaining his hermit-like existence, he quoted Jesus as saying, "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you." He went on to ask, "What world hated Christ and hounded him to death? The religious world, those who pretended to be most zealous for God's glory."
__________________
-JD
1Thess5:21
Ordained Deacon, PCA
Serving in the SBC
MS

My links: ChristianSkepticism.org | personal | facebook | Prescriptive Psalmody
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 07-23-2007, 09:54 PM
Southern Presbyterian's Avatar
Puritanboard Graduate
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Wytheville, Virginia
Posts: 3,221
Thanks: 880
Thanked 371 Times in 288 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by armourbearer View Post
To elaborate, he went to Scotland expecting to find the church of his dreams, and found himself in a nightmare. A. W. Pink outgrew the visible church of Christ on earth, which means he forgot what it means to be a servant of Christ labouring amongst mere mortals.
Thanks for the information. So, is there a good biography on Pink I can read? Where did you all get your information?
__________________
~James Helbert~, Wytheville, VA
Providence Reformed Presbyterian Church, RPCUS

TheBibleAlone.com / The Edinburgh Inn
"Is this not a brand plucked from the fire?” - Zechariah 3:2
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 07-23-2007, 09:57 PM
Puritanboard Doctor
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: LA
Posts: 9,871
Thanks: 860
Thanked 769 Times in 476 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wythe County Calvinist View Post
Thanks for the information. So, is there a good biography on Pink I can read? Where did you all get your information?
Iain Murray wrote a biography on Pink. Anything Murray writes is fantastic. I think the biography has the name of Pink in the title, so it shouldnt be too hard to find.
__________________
J. B. Atken
John Knox PCA
Layman, M.A. student at Louisiana College
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 07-23-2007, 09:59 PM
bookslover's Avatar
Puritanboard Senior
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lakewood, CA
Posts: 2,642
Thanks: 0
Thanked 237 Times in 163 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wythe County Calvinist View Post
Thanks for the information. So, is there a good biography on Pink I can read? Where did you all get your information?
The Life of Arthur W. Pink by Iain H. Murray. It's published by the Banner of Truth Trust and was recently re-issued in a second edition. It was originally published in 1981, I believe.

It's a fascinating read. Unfortunately, the second edition contains an appendix in which Murray tries to explain why he was justified in re-writing Pink's book on the sovereignty of God. He is, of course, not convincing. But, the biography itself is wonderful and very insightful.
__________________
Richard T. Zuelch, M.Div
Ruling Elder, OPC (not currently serving)
Westminster Presbyterian Church, CA (OPC)
www.reiterations.wordpress.com
www.foft.wordpress.com

"If anyone cries at my funeral I'll never speak to him again!" - Stan Laurel (1890-1965)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 07-24-2007, 01:11 AM
armourbearer's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia
Posts: 4,795
Thanks: 577
Thanked 2,176 Times in 862 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wythe County Calvinist View Post
Thanks for the information. So, is there a good biography on Pink I can read? Where did you all get your information?
As intimated by others, Murray on Pink is the definitive biography. There are also his Letters, both published by Banner of Truth Trust. I would especially note Murray's criticism of Pink with relation to his inability to sit under a reformed ministry. In the Letters Pink is particularly scathing of the Free Presbyterian Church, but if you read them carefully you discover that his bitterness revolved around the fact that the FPs did not "honour" Pink as he thought he should have been. This, perhaps, is one problem which is often ignored in the modern church, where you have individuals thinking too highly of themselves than they ought to think, rather than in accord with the measure of faith which God has given them to be useful to others in the body. Reputation precedes the men, and they think they ought to be invested with responsibility on that basis alone, notwithstanding the fact they have done nothing to commend themselves to that particular congregation.
__________________
Yours sincerely,


"Illum oportet crescere me autem minui."
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 07-24-2007, 06:35 AM
BobVigneault's Avatar
The Odd Mod(erator)
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Janesville, WI
Posts: 5,863
Thanks: 226
Thanked 1,292 Times in 538 Posts
AW Pink - Biographical Information

AW Pink came up in another thread and stimulated quite a bit of interest. I've moved those posts to this thread where they can be added to freely without hijacking the other thread.

What would really be cool is if I had the ability to put this post at the beginning of the thread. Ah, the heartbreak of being a lesser moderator.
__________________
Bob Vigneault (Bawb Vēēn-yo)
I just know there's got to be a pony in here somewhere!

The Heartbeat of Heaven (blog) MySpace (Music), MySpace (Personal)
Member of Christ Presbyterian Church, Janesville, WI OPC www.christ-opc.org

Click to get: Board Rules -- Signature Requirements -- Suggestions?

Last edited by BobVigneault; 07-24-2007 at 06:52 AM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 07-24-2007, 07:53 AM
panta dokimazete's Avatar
Puritanboard Postgraduate
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,030
Thanks: 510
Thanked 283 Times in 208 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by armourbearer View Post
As intimated by others, Murray on Pink is the definitive biography. There are also his Letters, both published by Banner of Truth Trust. I would especially note Murray's criticism of Pink with relation to his inability to sit under a reformed ministry. In the Letters Pink is particularly scathing of the Free Presbyterian Church, but if you read them carefully you discover that his bitterness revolved around the fact that the FPs did not "honour" Pink as he thought he should have been. This, perhaps, is one problem which is often ignored in the modern church, where you have individuals thinking too highly of themselves than they ought to think, rather than in accord with the measure of faith which God has given them to be useful to others in the body. Reputation precedes the men, and they think they ought to be invested with responsibility on that basis alone, notwithstanding the fact they have done nothing to commend themselves to that particular congregation.
__________________
-JD
1Thess5:21
Ordained Deacon, PCA
Serving in the SBC
MS

My links: ChristianSkepticism.org | personal | facebook | Prescriptive Psalmody
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 07-24-2007, 07:59 AM
Blueridge Believer's Avatar
Puritanboard Postgraduate
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: RADFORD VA.
Posts: 4,243
Thanks: 884
Thanked 980 Times in 473 Posts
We would all do well to learn a lesson from brother Pink lest we fall into the same thing. It is easy for bitterness to creep up on you and a spirit of 'I'm the last and only one' type of thinking. Nevertheless, his books are of great help to many. The Sovereignty of God and The Christian Sabbath were of particular help to me. I thought he did a good job with his book on dispensationalism as well.
__________________
1689 Baptist Confession

Psa 55:16 As for me, I will call upon God; and the LORD shall save me.
Psa 55:17 Evening, and morning, and at noon, will I pray, and cry aloud: and he shall hear my voice.
James Farley, Wilderness Road Baptist Assembly.
Husband of Melissa and father of Ann.
www.wildernessroadbaptist.org
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 07-24-2007, 08:42 AM
BobVigneault's Avatar
The Odd Mod(erator)
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Janesville, WI
Posts: 5,863
Thanks: 226
Thanked 1,292 Times in 538 Posts
Don't forget The Attributes of God. That book has lifted me out of my parochial mindset more than once.
__________________
Bob Vigneault (Bawb Vēēn-yo)
I just know there's got to be a pony in here somewhere!

The Heartbeat of Heaven (blog) MySpace (Music), MySpace (Personal)
Member of Christ Presbyterian Church, Janesville, WI OPC www.christ-opc.org

Click to get: Board Rules -- Signature Requirements -- Suggestions?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 07-24-2007, 10:28 PM
bookslover's Avatar
Puritanboard Senior
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lakewood, CA
Posts: 2,642
Thanks: 0
Thanked 237 Times in 163 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobVigneault View Post
Don't forget The Attributes of God. That book has lifted me out of my parochial mindset more than once.
A friend of mind, Herb Pink, 87, is a distant relative of AWP. Herb's father and AWP's father were cousins. Herb was the Clerk of Session at one of our OPC churches here in Southern California for nearly 50 years before it closed down several years ago.

Herb is a really nice guy and truly devoted to his Lord. Until he was well into his 80s, he was a chaplain with one of the police departments here - riding along with officers into the wee hours of the morning on many occasions.

Herb was 32 when AWP died in 1952 at 66. They never met, unfortunately.

So, I know someone who is related to AWP. You may touch me later (heh).
__________________
Richard T. Zuelch, M.Div
Ruling Elder, OPC (not currently serving)
Westminster Presbyterian Church, CA (OPC)
www.reiterations.wordpress.com
www.foft.wordpress.com

"If anyone cries at my funeral I'll never speak to him again!" - Stan Laurel (1890-1965)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 07-24-2007, 10:30 PM
Southern Presbyterian's Avatar
Puritanboard Graduate
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Wytheville, Virginia
Posts: 3,221
Thanks: 880
Thanked 371 Times in 288 Posts
Thanks for all the input. My reading list is now even longer.
__________________
~James Helbert~, Wytheville, VA
Providence Reformed Presbyterian Church, RPCUS

TheBibleAlone.com / The Edinburgh Inn
"Is this not a brand plucked from the fire?” - Zechariah 3:2
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 07-25-2007, 01:15 AM
KMK's Avatar
KMK KMK is offline.
Puritanboard Postgraduate
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wrightwood, CA
Posts: 4,760
Thanks: 1,739
Thanked 404 Times in 240 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobVigneault View Post
Don't forget The Attributes of God. That book has lifted me out of my parochial mindset more than once.
I loved this book as well as the Christian Sabbath and his article on Tithing.

I believe The Attributes of God was compiled from some articles he wrote for a periodical that he himself edited (if I am not mistaken) Does anyone know anything about that periodical? (Maybe Ivan?)

Also, wasn't he a died in the wool dispy who later renounced? If so, to what eschatology did he change?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 07-25-2007, 01:28 AM
Pilgrim's Avatar
Puritanboard Doctor
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Mandeville, LA
Posts: 6,636
Thanks: 1,317
Thanked 685 Times in 493 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by KMK View Post
I loved this book as well as the Christian Sabbath and his article on Tithing.

I believe The Attributes of God was compiled from some articles he wrote for a periodical that he himself edited (if I am not mistaken) Does anyone know anything about that periodical? (Maybe Ivan?)

Also, wasn't he a died in the wool dispy who later renounced? If so, to what eschatology did he change?
The periodical was entitled "Studies in the Scriptures". I believe the Chapel Library is reprinting them. Almost all of the books by Pink available now are gleaned from "Studies". The Sovereignty of God is an exception.

Check out Pink's Archive.
__________________
Chris
OPC member
Now attending Grace Community Baptist Church
Mandeville, LA

"Faith alone saves, but it is a faith that works." - S. Lewis Johnson
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 07-25-2007, 01:45 AM
bookslover's Avatar
Puritanboard Senior
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lakewood, CA
Posts: 2,642
Thanks: 0
Thanked 237 Times in 163 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilgrim View Post
The periodical was entitled "Studies in the Scriptures". I believe the Chapel Library is reprinting them. Almost all of the books by Pink available now are gleaned from "Studies". The Sovereignty of God is an exception.

Check out Pink's Archive.
It's funny about Pink's books. As you say, most of his books are articles collected from the series in his magazine. When he was alive, he was totally ignored by publishers. But, after he died, his body was hardly cold before publishers began cannibalizing his magazine to create the books. Which was easy since, as far as I know, Pink didn't bother to copyright anything.
__________________
Richard T. Zuelch, M.Div
Ruling Elder, OPC (not currently serving)
Westminster Presbyterian Church, CA (OPC)
www.reiterations.wordpress.com
www.foft.wordpress.com

"If anyone cries at my funeral I'll never speak to him again!" - Stan Laurel (1890-1965)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump