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10-15-2009, 09:29 AM
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2 Sam. 12:23 - But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? (n) can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.
| Well, it does say "to HIM," AKA the child. Not to "sheol" or the grave or a hole in the ground. He was referring to a person, not a place.
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10-17-2009, 11:21 PM
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2 Sam. 12:23 - But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? (n) can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.
| Well, it does say "to HIM," AKA the child. Not to "sheol" or the grave or a hole in the ground. He was referring to a person, not a place. | Much the way that, in Genesis, dead patriarchs are said to have been "gathered to [their] fathers."
I take back considering this a most misinterpreted verse, though. I simply have seen it used poorly - nevertheless, I do believe in the salvation of elect infants, I just don't believe David is speaking of heaven in particular here, or that we can prove the salvation of infants using this verse. There are better prooftexts for that.
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Ps. 8:3-4 "When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?"
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Well, a calendar published by folks who should know better included this verse: "All these things I will give you if you will fall down and worship me (Matt. 4:9) 
I'd add Romans 6:14 to the list- "For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace." "See, it says we don't have to follow the law anymore!!!" "Actually, it says sin shall not have dominion over you. How do we know what sin is? Hmmmm???"
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10-17-2009, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MarieP Well, a calendar published by folks who should know better included this verse: "All these things I will give you if you will fall down and worship me (Matt. 4:9) |  Wow! That's bad. Depending on the group, it might even be eerily ironic.
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10-18-2009, 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MarieP Well, a calendar published by folks who should know better included this verse: "All these things I will give you if you will fall down and worship me (Matt. 4:9) | What? You've got a problem with quoting the Bible? 
What are you, one of them pin-heady Calvinists or something? 
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"Cleanliness is next to Godliness" - 2Opinions 2:14
While not in the bible, you'd be surprised how many people think it is. 
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These two combined.
1Co 14:2 For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit.
1Co 14:4 The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself,
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10-18-2009, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by carlgobelman OK, what's your vote for the Bible verse most taken out of context? I am casting my vote for Revelation 3:20... Quote: |
Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me
| Nearly every time I hear this verse talked about in evangelical circles, it is always misquoted as an evangelistic verse ("Jesus, stands at the door to your heart and knocks. Won't you let him in?"). 
It seems to me more often than not that churches that interpret this verse in that way are the ones being talked about in that pericope... | Yeah some so-called evangelical preachers use this as an evagelistic verse, inviting the heathen to the faith. However this verse presupposes one is already a member of the covenant community. The phrase is found in a letter to the seven churches, this particular one being Laodecea. Further evidence is found in the next verse (v. 21), "...let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches." The direct object in this verse is clearly the churches.
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"Sell all you have and give to the poor"
The beatitudes taught from a liberal persuasion are constantly wrested.
And my favorite quote that is not scripture, but thought to be is:
"God helps those who help themselves"
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Philippians 3:13: "But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead,..."
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I had a former girlfriend once quote her favorite Bible passage. "Waste Not Want Not". When I asked for the book, chapter, and verse, she got quite irritated.  |
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Isaiah 53:5 ...and with His stripes we are healed . My Mother-in-law is a Pentecostal preacher, and if I hear that verse taken out of context one more time I think my head will explode.
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