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John
Member
Christ Presbyterian Church (OPC)
Salt Lake City, Utah
www.christpres.net

Thank you very much for sharing this, I was not aware of what had happened at the Oscars, but I am thankful that some good people are adressing it.

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Martin - Reformed
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White is absolutely correct about the left wanting to stifle all dissent.

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Ben
Chaplain, US Army
Ft. Riley, KS
TE Ohio Valley Presbytery, PCA

Thank you for posting that...

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Matt
Reformed Baptist
Christ Community Church

Thanks...great job James White!

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Trevor
Christian/Husband/Father/Writer/Teacher--
--In that order.
Bethany Church
CALIFORNIA
God is my King
Love God--Live Large

Wow, what happened at the Oscars?

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Pergamum


"If a commission by an earthly king is considered a honor, how can a commission by a Heavenly King be considered a sacrifice?"
-- David Livingstone

Here is the original clip:
Penn's attack against Christians begins at the 2 minute 30 second mark. This is what Dr. White originally had in his video that youtube deleted. Of course, youtube hasn't taken down this video...

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Brian Vandenburg
Member of Westminster Presbyterian Church (PCA)
Vancouver, WA
"The authority of the Holy Scripture, for which it ought to be believed, and obeyed, depends not upon the testimony of any man, or Church; but wholly upon God (who is truth itself) the author thereof: and therefore it is to be received, because it is the Word of God."-Westminster Confession of Faith

i'm confused because i don't see Sean Penn singling out Christians in his remark. he's just critical of anyone who supported Prop 8 but that's no big surprise in Hollywood, especially given that his movie was pro-gay. i'm sure that's part of the reason why he won.

on a side note, it's so ironic in his speech how he's trying to "shame" us into not supporting homosexuality. how far the country has fallen!

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Alex
Member of Carmel Baptist Church (SBC)
Matthews, NC

What's sad for the likes of that gay screenwriter in blissful tears during this segment is that moment was his heaven and without grace the only one he will ever have.
Sought the world and lost his soul.

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Travis Speegle
Redeemer Presbyterian, PCA (Waco, Tx)
Pacific Cross Roads, PCA (Los Angeles, CA)


"When it comes to trustworthy theologians one can usually honor the rule of thumb that the deader the better."-Dr. John Hannah, DTS (of all places)

Sean Penn did not attack Christians. He did what everyone else does, he made Christians look like haters for protesting what they think is wrong. It will always be like that. They hated and murdered our Lord, they will hate and murder us eventually.

Bring the lions....

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Jeffrey Wilson
Cornerstone Reformed Baptist Church
London Baptist Confession of Faith 1644
Summerland, British Columbia, Canada

"If ever a monk got to heaven by monkery, I ought to have gotten there!" Martin Luther

What is most shocking to me is Sean's comments about 'equal rights.' As if Penn and his neo-modernist celeb-politico's are fighting the good fight for some human sub-species that has been suppressed by man since the invention of fire.

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Rangerus
Southern Baptist
Austin, TX
Teacher and Volunteer
1689 LBCF & BF&M 2000

Totally.. its "equal" as long as nobody disagrees with his position. Then it's *GASP* hate!!!

I feel sorry for Sean Penn and others like him. Clearly they are in their own imaginary worlds where they feel that self-important. And why not? They only have fans, agents, and their peers feeding into their megalomania.

Moments like this remember me of John Bradford's well-known quote (modded) "There but for the grace of God, go I."

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Ed Asano
Member, Center Grove Presbyterian (PCA)
Edwardsville, IL

Lord, I am willing to --
Receive what you give,
Lack what you withhold,
Relinquish what you take.

Attack on Christians?

No attack. A sodomite sympathizer gives his opinion of those "who voted for Prop 8." And? So what?

The word "attack" is used far to frequently in this country--even among Christians.

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Chris
Presbyterian Reformed Church of Charlotte (PRC)
Student, Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminary
SC

...hope is nothing but the nourishment and strength of faith.
~ Calvin's Institutes III.ii.43

To a person who is observing this for the first time, it may not appear to be an attack, but as White pointed out in his video, there's a lot behind Penn's comments, and he was waiting for an opportunity to make them where he wouldn't have to defend himself.

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J Baldwin
Keowee Presbyterian Church, PCA
Pickens, SC
“You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.” Luke 10:27

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There was a lot behind Penn's comments? Ok. There is a lot behind yours, too...and mine...and everyone else who opines in a public forum. You also say Penn was waiting for an opportunity to make them? How do you know this? Seems to me, he has been making his comments, just as we are doing here, on his public blog, in newspaper ads, magazines, websites, documentaries, talk shows, interviews and so forth. Isn't the Milk movie he won the Oscar for itself a self-congratulatory pro-homosexual propaganda movie about some celebrated sodomite? And, has Penn somewhere said he won't defend his views?

Sister, please don't think I am picking on you. I am no defender of Penn. But he has the right to opine as he sees fit. So do I. So do you. I am sure you agree. He is against us and our heavenly Father and we are against him and his father the Devil.

If I were to be receiving an Oscar award I would have done the same thing as Penn...just from the other side. Penn *preaches* against what he perceives to be unrighteousness () every chance he gets. Much more so then do today's pastors and preachers--I am terribly sad and embarrassed to say.

While the lions may have gotten them 2,000 year ago, we have shotguns now.

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Andrew DeShazo
Husband of Kathryn
Father of Phillip-Giles B. DeShazo
Deacon
Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church, Memphis, TN
"From out of the depth of unbroken Infinfity arose the Question, "Who am I?" And to that Question there is the answer, "I am God!" -Meher Baba, died 1969.

"I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." Christ, died 33 AD, ressurected three days later.

First of all, Penn was not just defending his views. He was making an outright attack on those who didn't agree with him. He started right off by naming one group and calling them hateful. Then he launched into a speech about how ashamed the grandchildren of the people who voted for prop 8 would be.

Secondly, these were no off the cuff remarks. He said right from the beginning that he was working off prepared notes. He named the group and then accused them of being hateful. If you follow the liberal definition of hate crime and it had been another group involved, Penn would have been committing a "hate crime" and the media would have been all over him before the evening was over.

I have stated my opinion. I will say no more on this.

Ok.

Peace,

The group Penn was referring to are hateful are they not?

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Frank
Under Care
P.C.A.
Maryland

Yeah. I can just imagine the Christians under Nero watching the Oscars (of the time) and feeling attacked by the words of a fool.

I don't care about my "rights" when it comes to the Christian Faith. I will use all lawful means to retain those rights, but I'm not gonna cry the same way Penn, et al do when my view is opposed. I hope to silence the mouths of unbelievers by being like my Father in heaven.

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Josh Hicks, Chloë's Dad
Christ Covenant Reformed Presbyterian Church, RPCGA
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It is God that multiplies our sorrows.... God, as a righteous Judge, does it, which ought to silence us under all our sorrows; as many as they are, we have deserved them all, and more: nay, God, as a tender Father, does it for our necessary correction, that we may be humbled for sin, and weaned from the world by all our sorrows; and the good we get by them, with the comfort we have under them, will abundantly balance our sorrows, how greatly soever they are multiplied. - Matthew Henry

Sean Penn made reference to the "signs of hate" they saw as they were driving in... I didn't watch the Oscars, nor did I see the "signs" to which he was referring.

What were on those signs?

Perhaps they were hateful. Particularly if they were from Phelps' group.

Anyway, perhaps Penn's comment was intended to be an attack on Christianity, but because I didn't see the signs, I don't know precisely to what he was responding.

I did a quick Google search and found this link that had a picture of the protesters. The group was from Westboro Baptist Church.


Anti-Gay Westboro Baptist Church Protests the Oscars, Sean Penn Reacts - LAist: Los Angeles News, Food, Arts & Events

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Nathe
PCA
Germantown, TN

Thanks for that. So, Penn was reacting to hate. These folks from Westboro Baptist aren't residents of CA... so they don't have a "dog in the fight" concerning Prop 8.

I obviously disagree with what Sean Penn and his cr@p movie stands for, but I can't be mad at all for him reacting to the Westboro Baptist cult. It's just too bad that he can't differentiate between that hateful group and the vast majority of prop. 8 proponents.

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Calvinistic Baptist
Ukiah, California
To follow Christ was the best decision God made for me!

Can't? ... Or won't?

Truthfully, I am more ashamed over the protestors than I am over Penn. You expect an unbeliever to act that way.

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Janis
Christ Church ARP, NC
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved." Eph. 1:3-6 ESV

Huh?

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Patrick
Member, PCA
Chandler, AZ
ReformedTheologyInstitute.com

I fear explanations explanatory of things explained.

I never understand why people say we need equal rights for everyone; surely pedophiles and necrophiles and such all deserve equal rights! And all other forms of sexual deviants as well!

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Steven Nemes
Phoenix, AZ

Good philosophy must exist, if for no other reason, because bad philosophy must be answered - C.S. Lewis

I like what Rushdoony says about equality- it's a mathematical term and nothing else and it needs to be put back in its mathematical box.

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Toni Cunningham, Wife of Bill (Theognome)
Parkwoods OPC, Overland Park KS

"Vice is a monster of so frightful mien, As, to be hated, needs but to be seen; Yet seen too oft, familiar with her face, We first endure, then pity, then embrace." ~ Alexander Pope

Is sexual preference a right? Is marriage a right? It is clear that this whole debate is not about benefits but having society sign off on the sin of homosexuality as acceptable. It puzzles me because the battle cry of "Society does not define who I am" seems to contradict the demand that we redefine marriage. So society does not define a homosexual but society does define marriage. In order to be seen as a couple homosexuals need society to sign off on their sin and thereby redefine marriage....so then...society does in fact define them.....???? Think I confused myself.