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    Limited Time: Free Bahnsen/Stein Debate!

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    Thanks for the link, Jacob!
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    How absurd a tenet is this, which holdeth that there is some particular worship of God allowed, and not commanded? What new light is this which maketh all our divines to have been in the mist, who have acknowledged no worship of God, but that which God hath commanded? Who ever heard of commanded and allowed worship?
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    Well, it keeps giving me an error message.
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    How absurd a tenet is this, which holdeth that there is some particular worship of God allowed, and not commanded? What new light is this which maketh all our divines to have been in the mist, who have acknowledged no worship of God, but that which God hath commanded? Who ever heard of commanded and allowed worship?
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    I'm taking an audio ethics course by Bahnsen right now. I repent in dust and ashes for all the years I buried my head in the sand and refused to listen to men like this. What a tremendously gifted saint of God this man was. Thank God for His grace in opening our eyes in justification AND in sanctification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnpreacher View Post
    I'm taking an audio ethics course by Bahnsen right now. I repent in dust and ashes for all the years I buried my head in the sand and refused to listen to men like this. What a tremendously gifted saint of God this man was. Thank God for His grace in opening our eyes in justification AND in sanctification.
    His Personal Holiness course was one of the most invigorating/humbling/soul stirring things I have ever listened to. He did an excellent job, all in one course, on rebutting libertarian free will philosophers, Roman Catholic theologies of merit, and setting forth a Ridderbosian view of sanctification.
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    Is anyone else getting an error message?
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    How absurd a tenet is this, which holdeth that there is some particular worship of God allowed, and not commanded? What new light is this which maketh all our divines to have been in the mist, who have acknowledged no worship of God, but that which God hath commanded? Who ever heard of commanded and allowed worship?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirhicks View Post
    Is anyone else getting an error message?
    Josh use the link Exagorazo posted, when you see the links, right click and save them.
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    Yeah, Adam. Thanks. However, I'm wondering, since these were the mp3s that were available only by purchase, if the audio is better...particularly on the CD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spear Dane View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Barnpreacher View Post
    I'm taking an audio ethics course by Bahnsen right now. I repent in dust and ashes for all the years I buried my head in the sand and refused to listen to men like this. What a tremendously gifted saint of God this man was. Thank God for His grace in opening our eyes in justification AND in sanctification.
    His Personal Holiness course was one of the most invigorating/humbling/soul stirring things I have ever listened to. He did an excellent job, all in one course, on rebutting libertarian free will philosophers, Roman Catholic theologies of merit, and setting forth a Ridderbosian view of sanctification.

    J,

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    The Covenant site keeps asking me for credit card information! It says there is no charge, but wants me to put in my info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnpreacher View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnpreacher View Post
    I'm taking an audio ethics course by Bahnsen right now. I repent in dust and ashes for all the years I buried my head in the sand and refused to listen to men like this. What a tremendously gifted saint of God this man was. Thank God for His grace in opening our eyes in justification AND in sanctification.
    His Personal Holiness course was one of the most invigorating/humbling/soul stirring things I have ever listened to. He did an excellent job, all in one course, on rebutting libertarian free will philosophers, Roman Catholic theologies of merit, and setting forth a Ridderbosian view of sanctification.

    J,

    Where did you get that course?
    See here

    While all of them are good and foundational, some are more hard hitting than others. I would suggest the following:
    Lectures 3-19.

    I downloaded one or two every ten days. That made both cost and time manageable. This was arguably the best audio material I have ever listened to. I originally began it to be this great ethical apologist. I ended humiliated and in the dust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calvibaptist View Post
    The Covenant site keeps asking me for credit card information! It says there is no charge, but wants me to put in my info.
    They won't charge you. Been there. Done that. You will be fine.
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    I guess they don't want me to have it...haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirhicks View Post
    I guess they don't want me to have it...haha
    I put in credit card information and got an error 3 times. I guess they don't want me to have it either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calvibaptist View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sirhicks View Post
    I guess they don't want me to have it...haha
    I put in credit card information and got an error 3 times. I guess they don't want me to have it either.
    I can email--in good conscience--the debate to you. All you need is yousendit.com (which is free).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spear Dane View Post
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    I guess they don't want me to have it...haha
    I put in credit card information and got an error 3 times. I guess they don't want me to have it either.
    I can email--in good conscience--the debate to you. All you need is yousendit.com (which is free).
    I've got an account. What info do you need from me? I'll pm you what you need.
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    I've got one too, Sir.
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    Ok, I am sending the debate to a few people via yousendit. However, due to computer-interent connections, it won't get sent until tomorrow morning or later tonight. Maybe later tonight.(sorry, insert frowny face)

    anybody else want me to send them the debate? If so, PM me your email address.
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    Just PM'd you, Bradford. Thanks.
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    greg, i sent you part one.
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    I just downloaded both parts. Thanks Bradford!
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    How 'bout part two?
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    Josh and Traci (Augusta),
    Check your email in about five minutes.
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    Thanks, Jacob. The quality is much better.
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    Got them. Thanks a lot Jacob for that. It's a really great debate. Bahnsen is sharp!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Augusta View Post
    Got them. Thanks a lot Jacob for that. It's a really great debate. Bahnsen is sharp!
    I held onto this debate for dear life in colllege. My faith was constantly under attack. I then began to study, not just Bahnsen's arguments in the debate, but Bahnsen's debate moves themselves. Bahnsen taught me/teaching me how to set up an argument and find weak spots.

    I also think this debate is funny at a number of moments.
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