The PuritanBoard  

Go Back   The PuritanBoard > Apologetics Forum > Defending the Faith

Defending the Faith Discussion of Apologetical Issues with Unbelievers and Unorthodox groups
always ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope in you, with meekness and fear (1 Pe. 3:15)

Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God.

» Online Users: 70
22 members and 48 guests
Abd_Yesua_alMasih, caddy, Davidius, Devin, Ex Nihilo, Grace Alone, Javilo, JOwen, Marrow Man, moral necessity, Pergamum, py3ak, Quickened, Southern Presbyterian, Theognome, TimV
Most users ever online was 856, 07-06-2007 at 12:19 AM.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 07-02-2008, 06:45 AM
JohnOwen007's Avatar
Puritanboard Sophomore
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Perth, Australia.
Posts: 662
Thanks: 88
Thanked 231 Times in 109 Posts
GAFCON is finished

Dear Brothers and Sisters, thanks to all those who prayed for me and for the Global Anglican Future Conference (GAFCON) that was held last week in Jerusalem. It was an incredible experience to join with 1200 others who met to deal with the problem of liberalism in the Anglican Communion.

There were two amazing highlights. The first was meeting brothers and sisters in Christ from every nation, tribe, and tongue, who love Jesus and deplored liberal theology. I met Africans, who were ready to die for their faith as they returned to their countries dominated by militant Islam. Many pastors I met had lost friends and family. In the Sudan one church leader told me that there was basically no Christians over 35 years old because they had been murdered. Those who are left have to work on the land to survive poverty; they can't read, and don't have the time or resources to learn. Hence he has quite a task to work out how to disciple these brothers and sisters and prepare the church for the next generation.

The growth of the gospel in Africa is quite remarkable. I heard all sorts of stories about Anglican missions to Africa. For years there was little response to the gospel. But the turning point came when the Bible was translated into the various African languages. This also marked a turning point in reforming traditional African culture. Incredible.

The second highlight was visiting places where Jesus walked: the Western wall, Capernaum, the Sea of Galilee, Bethelehem and the like. This brought the gospels alive, in a way one cannot explain.

GAFCON, after much effort and deliberation, produced an excellent statement of commitment to confessional Anglicanism (adherence to the reformed 39 Articles of 1563--the great decade of reformed confessions). So now the hard work begins of taking this statement back to our own respective provinces to implement it.

I'm now having a couple of weeks holiday in Scotland with old friends. This place is the home of Presbyterianism! Looking out my window now I can see the church that George Gillespie pastored from 1638-42. Unfortunately, it's no longer a church, even though the building still stands.

Every blessing, Marty.
__________________
Marty

"There is nothing so necessary to draw us to repentance as good thoughts of God." (Thomas Manton)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to JohnOwen007 For This Useful Post:
a mere housewife (07-02-2008), armourbearer (07-02-2008), Backwoods Presbyterian (07-02-2008), DMcFadden (07-02-2008), Gryphonette (07-02-2008), Kevin (07-02-2008), Pilgrim (07-02-2008), turmeric (07-02-2008)
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 07-02-2008, 06:52 AM
JohnOwen007's Avatar
Puritanboard Sophomore
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Perth, Australia.
Posts: 662
Thanks: 88
Thanked 231 Times in 109 Posts
One other highlight, Sam Logan was at GAFCON on behalf of the World Reformed Fellowship. It was wonderful to meet him in the flesh.
__________________
Marty

"There is nothing so necessary to draw us to repentance as good thoughts of God." (Thomas Manton)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 07-02-2008, 07:20 AM
NaphtaliPress's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 8,008
Blog Entries: 19
Thanks: 885
Thanked 841 Times in 530 Posts
Are you in or near Kirkcaldy then Marty?
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnOwen007 View Post
Looking out my window now I can see the church that George Gillespie pastored from 1638-42. Unfortunately, it's no longer a church, even though the building still stands.

Every blessing, Marty.
__________________
Chris Coldwell, Lakewood Presbyterian Church (PCA), Member
Naphtali Press: Presbyterian & Reformed Books
The Confessional Presbyterian Journal
The Blue Banner Archive

The Regulative Principle: Samuel Miller gives a succinct statement of this principle when he writes that since the Scriptures are the “only infallible rule of faith and practice, no rite or ceremony ought to have a place in the public worship of God, which is not warranted in Scripture, either by direct precept or example, or by good and sufficient inference.”

Click to get: Board Rules -- Signature Requirements -- Suggestions? Joining PB's Politics & Government Forum
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 07-02-2008, 07:24 AM
a mere housewife's Avatar
Puritanboard Junior
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 2,003
Thanks: 523
Thanked 475 Times in 289 Posts
Mr. Foord, we will be praying for these Christians, the people and the ministers in Africa, and for you and others who are fighting against liberalism in your churches -as well as envying you in Scotland. Thank you for telling us about these things.
__________________
Heidi
Indianapolis, Indiana

After two days, he will revive us; on the third day he will raise us up, that we may live before him.
Let us know; let us press on to know the LORD; his going out is sure as the dawn; he will come to us as the showers, as the spring rains that water the earth.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to a mere housewife For This Useful Post:
JohnOwen007 (07-02-2008)
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 07-02-2008, 07:49 AM
Puritanboard Senior
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Moncton NB Canada
Posts: 2,327
Thanks: 335
Thanked 233 Times in 151 Posts
I read the Jerusalem statement last night, & it sounds great.
__________________
Kevin Rogers
Sovereign Community Church, PCA
Moncton NB
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 07-02-2008, 10:07 AM
JohnOwen007's Avatar
Puritanboard Sophomore
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Perth, Australia.
Posts: 662
Thanks: 88
Thanked 231 Times in 109 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by NaphtaliPress View Post
Are you in or near Kirkcaldy then Marty?
Yes. I'm staying in East Wemyss, which is about a 7-8 minute drive from Kirkcaldy. I just wandered down to the church (St Mary's, Wemyss). It was here that Gillespie first ministered having been the first clergyman not to be ordained by a bishop. (Well done young man!). One part of St Mary's is someone's house, the other part is looking the worse for ware. Apparently the owners want to sell it (for about 75,000 quid)! Any rich Puritan fans want to buy it and fix it up?
__________________
Marty

"There is nothing so necessary to draw us to repentance as good thoughts of God." (Thomas Manton)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 07-02-2008, 10:11 AM
NaphtaliPress's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 8,008
Blog Entries: 19
Thanks: 885
Thanked 841 Times in 530 Posts
Interesting. Gillespie's portrait hangs in the church in townsquare I think in Kirkcaldy which I think is now not a church per se but was several years ago when I was in contact with the session re the painting. I've lost touch and need to speak to email someone to be sure I can still use the artwork; if you happen to visit Kirkcaldy and plan to visit the church, see if you can find any contact info; I would me much obliged!
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnOwen007 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by NaphtaliPress View Post
Are you in or near Kirkcaldy then Marty?
Yes. I'm staying in East Wemyss, which is about a 7-8 minute drive from Kirkcaldy. I just wandered down to the church (St Mary's, Wemyss). It was here that Gillespie first ministered having been the first clergyman not to be ordained by a bishop. (Well done young man!). One part of St Mary's is someone's house, the other part is looking the worse for ware. Apparently the owners want to sell it (for about 75,000 quid)! Any rich Puritan fans want to buy it and fix it up?
__________________
Chris Coldwell, Lakewood Presbyterian Church (PCA), Member
Naphtali Press: Presbyterian & Reformed Books
The Confessional Presbyterian Journal
The Blue Banner Archive

The Regulative Principle: Samuel Miller gives a succinct statement of this principle when he writes that since the Scriptures are the “only infallible rule of faith and practice, no rite or ceremony ought to have a place in the public worship of God, which is not warranted in Scripture, either by direct precept or example, or by good and sufficient inference.”

Click to get: Board Rules -- Signature Requirements -- Suggestions? Joining PB's Politics & Government Forum
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 07-02-2008, 10:19 AM
JohnOwen007's Avatar
Puritanboard Sophomore
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Perth, Australia.
Posts: 662
Thanks: 88
Thanked 231 Times in 109 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
I read the Jerusalem statement last night, & it sounds great.
Yes, absolutely. It is hard to believe how well it all came together in such a short period of time, with so many people discussing it, and praying about it.

We were hoping J. I. Packer was going to make it to GAFCON, but, alas, he didn't. He's now a very frail old man. But his pastor, David Short, who also had his license suspended with Packer, spoke at one of the plenary sessions. He was superb. During GAFCON, Packer back home said that the Archbishop of Canterbury should resign given his abandonment of historic Christianity!

I spoke to many pastors in the US and Canada who have been treated very unjustly by the liberal establishment. But I was greatly encouraged at how little bitterness there was amongst them. They were determined to put it behind them, and focus on ministering the gospel.

A wonderful moment was when a Kenyan bishop said to me over the lunch table, "We are very encouraged by people like you in the West who have stuck to the apostolic faith despite the large scale abandonment of historic Christianity due to modernity".

Of course the liberals are starting to put their spin on GAFCON already and the vilification has begun in earnest. But this is precisely what Jesus said would happen to those who love him.
__________________
Marty

"There is nothing so necessary to draw us to repentance as good thoughts of God." (Thomas Manton)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 07-02-2008, 10:21 AM
JohnOwen007's Avatar
Puritanboard Sophomore
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Perth, Australia.
Posts: 662
Thanks: 88
Thanked 231 Times in 109 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by NaphtaliPress View Post
I've lost touch and need to speak to email someone to be sure I can still use the artwork; if you happen to visit Kirkcaldy and plan to visit the church, see if you can find any contact info; I would me much obliged!
Yes I'd love to. I have every intention of visiting Kirkcaldy. I'll see what I can find out.
__________________
Marty

"There is nothing so necessary to draw us to repentance as good thoughts of God." (Thomas Manton)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to JohnOwen007 For This Useful Post:
NaphtaliPress (07-02-2008)
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 07-02-2008, 06:51 PM
JohnOwen007's Avatar
Puritanboard Sophomore
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Perth, Australia.
Posts: 662
Thanks: 88
Thanked 231 Times in 109 Posts
Here is a talk J. I. Packer gave last week on “Lessons to be learned from the Canadian church experience” in which he stated that the issues which prompted GAFCON are the most serious since the Reformation. He has a good analysis of theological liberalism.

Here is the Q & A session after the talk.

Enjoy. They're wonderful.
__________________
Marty

"There is nothing so necessary to draw us to repentance as good thoughts of God." (Thomas Manton)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to JohnOwen007 For This Useful Post:
yeutter (07-02-2008)
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0.1

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2002-2008 PuritanBoard.com
Hosted by WebsiteMaven - helping ministries with web hosting advice, reviews, and design.
Westminster Abbey © Confessional Presbyterian Presses - used with permission.
Add Our Custom Button to your Google Toolbar

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64